The Glade 4.0

A little dated, but still fun. A tiny bit NSFW at the end.

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"You are not a professor of bringing truth to the public."

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I prefer, "science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can **** off."

That whole Beyond Belief conference is fascinating. Degrasse-Tyson's address, in particular, is spectacular.






On the OP video with Dawkins, Tyson is absolutely right, and Dawkins even admits it. The confrontational approach is historicly not that good at swaying minds.

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That was really a pretty dumb thing to say.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Not sure why. It was funny, and not stupid at all. The editor wasn't interested in converting those not interested in science to get them to subscribe to his magazine. If you were not interested at all in science, you were an idiot, and he had no interest in convincing you. He wasn't publishing for idiots.

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It was utterly irrelevant to what deGrasse had just said. He claimed to accept the criticism, then basically turned around and said "but I don't care because anyone that doesn't agree with me can **** off". All he was doing was trying to play off the fact that he got schooled by DeGrasse Tyson

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I think you missed his point. Dawkins conceded what Tyson said was correct, but just said he's far from the worst offender. That quote was just to show someone worse than him.

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He often misses the point.

This

From that same conference (and I recommend this for everyone no matter their beliefs... Lawrence Krauss is a remarkably rational and moderate person.)

Lawrence M. Krauss - Part 1

Lawrence M. Krauss - Part 2

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
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And you often troll. Dawkins' point is silly. Saying that there are people who are more offensive and unproductive than he is hardly makes it any better for him. There is also the fact that the magazine editor is not trying to convince people of anytihng; there is no point trying to sell magazines to people uninterested in their topic.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Yes, it was silly. this was also part of the point. It was humor.

And before you say it wasn't funny, just remember, you're like, the only person on earth who doesn't find George Carlin funny. Your sense of humor isn't quite in line with most of us. It was VERY funny, to his target audience.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
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I don't really care if it was funny or not.

Carlin, however, was not funny. He was an arrogant turd who should ahve been dragged out of the comedy club and had his face slammed into the concrete a few times. I'd listen to Dawkins over him any day. Dawkins, at least, actually is a bona fide scientist and intellectual, even if he wildly oversteps his bounds. Carlin was a pompous windbag trying to make social commentary by denigrating his betters (his betters being practically everyone else).

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

See, and I consider Carlin petty much everyone's better. (In fact, he's right up there with great philosphers like... uh... **** it. No philosopher ever came close. The man was a **** genius.)

But that's kinda my point. Every comedian in the business considers George Carlin to have been a brilliant man, and an incredible inspiration. The best Late Night Talk show host ever (Johnny Carson) adored George Carlin. You won't find anyone in the business with a bad thing to say about him. And the continued popularity of all his comedy, long after his death, puts you in the minority. You just don't get it. That's fine, but it leaves you singularly unqualified to discuss comedic value.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
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There is no such thing as being unqualified to discuss comedic value. Pointing out my being in the minority is irrelevant. And yes, there are people that don't like him, just not here.

The idea that he's a philosopher, however, is laughable. He was an arrogant turd looking down on people in general for no better reason than A) it gave him material and B) he had some imaginary standard people ought to adhere to because he said so. **** him and his material.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

You just described every comedian ever. All comedy is either schadenfreud, or else making fun of stupid **** people do. All of it.


Carlin never provided ANY standards for ANYONE to adhere to. At all. He wasn't in the business of giving solutions, he didn't have any, and never claimed to have any. He just pointed out the stuff he thought was stupid and funny. And I pretty much agree with him, on all points.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Different strokes.

The French adore Jerry Lewis, and so did I ... when I was 12. I grew up, apparently the French haven't.

George Carlin was a pompous underachiever slinging barbs at his betters, and the only reason I found him funny (and I did find him very funny) was for that very reason. He specialized in pointing out the irony that's all around us with the abandon of a village idiot who gets paid to polish the statue in the park saving his money to buy a statue he can polish so he can be his own boss.

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Not even close.


Carlin never provided ANY standards for ANYONE to adhere to. At all. He wasn't in the business of giving solutions, he didn't have any, and never claimed to have any. He just pointed out the stuff he thought was stupid and funny. And I pretty much agree with him, on all points.[/quote]

You need a standard in order to be able to claim people are being stupid. Stupid relative to what?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

The same standard all comedians use: stupid relative to the sensibilities of the people listening.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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