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Author:  Xequecal [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:02 am ]
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/11/mpaa-theater-security/?cid=co14544324

Just think, soon you can enjoy reliving the airport security experience whenever you go watch a movie!
Author:  Khross [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:08 am ]
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I'm not seeing the problem here.
Author:  darksiege [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:11 pm ]
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Khross wrote:
I'm not seeing the problem here.


This.

But I am also a movie person and love going to buy the movies I want when they are released.
Author:  Lenas [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:48 pm ]
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This is going to make it harder for me to use my flask in theaters :/
Author:  Rorinthas [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:26 pm ]
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Can we end this outdated content distribution model yet? I was considering going to see Thor tomorrow night. Now I am probably not.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:31 pm ]
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I don't think you're too likely to actually be frisked. The MCAA can make all the recommendations it wants because it can still sell movies over Netflix and a zillion other ways. Theaters still need people to come buy their popcorn and drinks.
Author:  Rorinthas [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:38 pm ]
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Of course I am not likely to be frisked. The point is that MPAA wants to be jerks to their honest customers reminding me of the myriad reasons not to support their outdated content distribution model. The only reason I can't watch Thor from my home today legally (something I'd gladly pay $15-20 for) is because they are hoping they can get $10 from me now and $20 down the road. (Which based on reviews they probably won't.)
Author:  Diamondeye [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:27 am ]
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That, and people still like the experience of going out to the movies. I do. I'd never watch a movie at home if I could afford going out and had the time.
Author:  Midgen [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:18 am ]
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This is hard to explain, but I like watching movies in the theater, but I hate the theater experience (especially when it's crowded).

To clarify, watching movies in theater format, with the large room and dynamic audio is just not reproduceable at home.

I just hate sharing that experience with inconsiderate humans who can't shut up, or can't miss a text or tweet.

I might go out to a theater twice a year, and always during a weekday matinee. If there is more than a .001 percent chance that I'm going to be frisked, or searched in any way, that twice a year will turn into zero times a year in a heartbeat.
Author:  Raell [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:38 am ]
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This will never happen. They are not going to pay for the training time required to teach their people how to frisk someone and not end up facing a lawsuit. Most of the places around me pay minimum wage and they have a pretty high turn over rate. I never see the same people there twice. The training cost alone would sky rocket the popcorn and soda prices so high, no one would ever go to a show.
Author:  Vindicarre [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:41 am ]
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I'm with Midgen. I've got a 100" screen and 8 channel surround; I'll still go to a theater occasionally, but if the frisking is a possibility, I won't be going at all.
Author:  Rorinthas [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:11 am ]
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Diamondeye wrote:
That, and people still like the experience of going out to the movies. I do. I'd never watch a movie at home if I could afford going out and had the time.


A simultaneous, multi-platform release would please us both. I'm not saying burn down the movie house, just give us both legal day one options.
Author:  Khross [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:20 am ]
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Still not seeing the problem with this ...

Theatres are private businesses housed on private property and run by private entities.

If they want to alienate their customers, drive themselves out of business, and thereby demolish the stranglehold the MPAA has on certain copyright laws and intellectual property discussions, I'm all for that.

But, even if they don't alienate enough customers to force change, we still get back to ...

Theatres are private businesses housed on private property and run by private entities.
Author:  Rorinthas [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:25 am ]
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Yes, they are. The argument is not could they do this, the discussion is should they and how does this announcement influence our consumer decisions
Author:  Diamondeye [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:14 am ]
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Let me put this another way. When I take my wife out for dinner and a movie, she is not going to want to hear about goi.g home and looking at the TVfor the movie part. That's where our horde of screaming children is.

The MPAA may want theaters to frisk people but they aren't the ones assuming the risk. The theater is, and gains nothing in return. They won't do it.
Author:  Aizle [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:35 am ]
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Midgen wrote:
To clarify, watching movies in theater format, with the large room and dynamic audio is just not reproduceable at home.


Not true.

It just requires a bit of money and enough space to dedicate to the project.

My current home stereo is equal or better to the sound quality at most theatres. It ran me about $10k is 2006. Add another $3k for a high quality video projector and then put into a basement room that you can setup with good light control, audio tiles and some furniture.

As long as you have a suitable room in your house that you can use, you can easily surpass the movie experience for $15-25k+ depending on how crazy you get with equipment, furniture and decorations.
Author:  Midgen [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:42 am ]
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Aizle wrote:
Midgen wrote:
To clarify, watching movies in theater format, with the large room and dynamic audio is just not reproduceable at home.


Not true


Yes, it is true.

I'm not saying you can't build a nice home theater. But it's still a home theater. It's not a 70' screen in a giant theater with huge speakers lining all four walls. It's just not the same immersive experience.

I suppose if you have a few million dollars you didn't need you could build your own 70' sceen theater at home, but I don't, and if I did, I wouldn't.
Author:  Aizle [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:44 pm ]
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Well, then we disagree on what immersive means.

Sure you can't get a 70' screen, but you can get to where your sight lines are VERY close to what you get in a theatre and actually because of the smaller space, the audio portion is much easier. Yes the space is more intimate, but in my experience that only increases the immersion, not the other way around.
Author:  Lenas [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:53 pm ]
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The hardest part of a real home theater is having a basement to put it in. Projector + decent sound system + comfortable seating >>>>> movie theater. Price is in the thousands, not millions... lol
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:12 pm ]
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They'd better do this before people buy tickets, or offer refunds. I'm not getting frisked, and I'm not getting robbed as a result.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:11 pm ]
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If you have that much spare space at home, its for a model railroad. :mrgreen: :geek:
Author:  Amanar [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:48 am ]
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Recording movies with a camcorder is a felony? Under federal law? That's the part of this article I think is messed up.
Author:  Taskiss [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:05 pm ]
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Do you think that copying a $10 bill being a felony is messed up?
Author:  Amanar [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:12 pm ]
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No, that seems pretty reasonable. It's fraud and it's committed directly against the federal government.

Recording a movie in a theater is often copyright infringement, but that should be a civil matter. It'd be nice if I could go around charging people who copy my photographs without permission with felonies. Or people who plagiarize my forum posts. But no, like most people, I have to seek redress through the civil court system (and show proof of actual damages).

It's the same with most industries too. Recording a concert isn't a felony. Taking a photo of someone else's painting isn't a felony. Making a copy of a book isn't a felony. Recording a song off the radio isn't a felony. What makes movies being shown in movie theaters so special that they deserve the attention of federal law enforcement officials?
Author:  Talya [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:07 am ]
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Lenas wrote:
This is going to make it harder for me to use my flask in theaters :/


Indeed. And bringing in outside snacks...

As for cameras in theatres, obviously I have nothing against piracy, but does anybody really watch camera copies of movies? I've never seen a good one. If I want to see a movie badly enough to watch the shitty-ass camera copy, I want to see it in the theater. I won't download a movie that says "CAM" or "TS" on it. Blu-Ray/DVD copy or nothing.
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