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Naked and Afraid
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Author:  Müs [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:03 pm ]
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So this is a thing, show on Nat Geo.

Two survivalists, dropped in the wilderness for 21 days, with no clothes or anything. They get one simple item (Knife, machete, cookpot, firestarter, etc.)

You're going on the show. What do you bring?
Author:  Lenas [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:09 pm ]
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Show should be called Starving & Shivering for 3 Weeks.

Both contestants pick two things to show up with, and then once they've met, they pick two final items out of the four they've chosen so as to not have duplicates. I would choose a machete and a fire starter.

I'd smuggle in a couple of guns as well.
Author:  LadyKate [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:11 pm ]
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I'd choose a cookpot and a firestarter. Having the ability to boil water for drinking would be my top priority.
Author:  Müs [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:16 pm ]
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Lenas wrote:
Show should be called Starving & Shivering with bugs for 3 Weeks.

Both contestants pick two things to show up with, and then once they've met, they pick two final items out of the four they've chosen so as to not have duplicates. I would choose a machete and a fire starter.

I'd smuggle in a couple of guns as well.


Yes. Yes it should be called that.

I didn't know about the two things. That makes sense. Would suck if everyone ended up with a duplicate. ;)
Author:  Rorinthas [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:45 pm ]
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Is duct tape allowed?

Also it should be called Rust: for real

Thay aside the ability to cut things and make fire is paramount a hatchet might be better than a machete if allowed

Id be less worried about something to boil water in kate. Bear Grylls always manages to find something.
Author:  Lex Luthor [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:01 pm ]
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I'd choose a Tauntaun and then cut it open and live inside of it.
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:45 pm ]
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Sat phone.
Author:  Raell [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:52 pm ]
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Big knife and a fire starter because I am so far removed from the caveman I can't start a fire any other way.
Author:  Müs [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:18 am ]
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Elmarnieh wrote:
Sat phone.


This would be useless. Unless you short the battery to spark a fire. You need to survive for 21 days, when your extraction arrives.
Author:  Müs [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:18 am ]
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Raell wrote:
Big knife and a fire starter because I am so far removed from the caveman I can't start a fire any other way.


I feel ya. I couldn't start a fire with a MAPP gas blowtorch.
Author:  Diamondeye [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:45 am ]
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I'm thinking a hatchet would be best.
Author:  Sam [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:02 am ]
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After having a 4+ foot diamond back in my flower bed on the backdoor step this weekend.....they don't have enough money to drop me naked in the wilderness for 21 days. My wife thought the kittens had a locust on the corner of the porch, about 3 feet from where she was standing. I told her NO, and get inside. Had to get a 2x4 and a flashlight to find the damn thing (I could hear it just fine). Then got my little 22mag and shot the hell out of it. It had 8 buttons and was about as thick as a coke can in the middle.

I don't like killing things, but rattlesnakes on my back step gotta go.
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:46 am ]
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Müs wrote:
Elmarnieh wrote:
Sat phone.


This would be useless. Unless you short the battery to spark a fire. You need to survive for 21 days, when your extraction arrives.



And once I am evaced out of there I will likely survive for 21 days.
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:08 am ]
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I would bring... pants.

Seriously, all you need is a knife. Starting a fire is very easy. One would expect that you would have time to learn how beforehand if you don't know already.

Since it sounds like they get two items: knife and a big pot. Rope would be so incredibly nice for traps and shelter and whatnot, and would help tremendously with starting a fire, but I'd rather have a pot. If I didn't have a knife I'd be screwed.
Author:  TheRiov [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:12 am ]
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have you actually tried to start a fire without any tools? Before you say its 'easy' I suggest you try it.

I've done it with a hotspark and a magnifying glass but both of those times were under ideal conditions and its still a ton of work. Without any tools at all, its significantly harder than it looks. Heating wood to 800 degrees (necessary for combustion in dry conditions) is no mean feat.
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:13 am ]
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Try this sometime. It's very effective.
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:20 am ]
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Yeah most bow drills ive made used my shoelaces, the wide side is better for gripping than the vines usually used for cordage in my area.

That being said give me a knife and I could get a functional bow drill up and running in an area with wood.
Author:  TheRiov [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:32 am ]
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a) how are you going to make the bow? Most parts of the world don't have vines that would work for this. Some barks will work depending on the flora available, but both tend to be brittle and may not stand up for long enough to maintain this. There are options, of course, but it is not the easy method you're making it out to be. I'm not saying its impossible. I'm saying is difficult and time and energy consuming in an environment where you have little spare energy. Even notching the board effectively could take you an hour if all you have are rocks.
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:36 am ]
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TheRiov wrote:
a) how are you going to make the bow? Most parts of the world don't have vines that would work for this. Tend to be brittle that they wont stand up for long enough to maintain this. There are options, of course, but it is not the easy method you're making it out to be. I'm not saying its impossible. I'm saying is difficult and time and energy consuming in an environment where you have little spare energy. Even notching the board effectively could take you an hour if all you have are rocks.


Again, I said I need a knife or I'm screwed. None of the assembly is difficult, except for the string. I said rope would be very handy for making fire for this reason. Still, you can make a makeshift string, probably, depending on the environment (vines, tree bark, vegetation stems, thin soaked strip of wood). I've done this many times. I'm assuming they aren't dumping me in the tundra or desert, because then it would all be moot anyway.
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:39 am ]
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Tree roots work well also, though they can be kind of slippery.
Author:  Lenas [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:11 pm ]
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Many people have been on this show with perfect knowledge of how to create bow drills, getting fires started in their back yards or local woods no problem.

It's a different story when they're out in a jungle getting rained on 20 hours a day with a useless partner and no caloric intake.
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:26 pm ]
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Grow hair out long. Cut hair with knife, braid hair into cordage for bow drill.

You know you will be going on the show...

Jungle - **** that though. I'm take 50 gallons of DEET.
Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:54 pm ]
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Lenas wrote:
Many people have been on this show with perfect knowledge of how to create bow drills, getting fires started in their back yards or local woods no problem.

It's a different story when they're out in a jungle getting rained on 20 hours a day with a useless partner and no caloric intake.


Constant rain would make it difficult. Whenever I go out in the woods just me and a knife, I'm usually looking for decent weather. It's barely fun as it is.
Author:  Elmarnieh [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:13 pm ]
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Digging your own latrine isn't fun? What???!?
Author:  Müs [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:23 pm ]
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Lenas wrote:
Many people have been on this show with perfect knowledge of how to create bow drills, getting fires started in their back yards or local woods no problem.

It's a different story when they're out in a jungle getting rained on 20 hours a day with a useless partner and no caloric intake.


I still think the Louisiana Swamp was the most hostile place to be dropped. Followed by that place they went in the Amazon where the first dude in said "Nope", the second team failed after 4 days, and the third team were two that had already done the show once before.
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