Hmm, so a forum post like this is probably not kosher with you guys:
"Lttp, but have to say re the OP that asking a/s/l is wtf-creepy, imho. Anyway, just my 2 cp. Ymmv."
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| Author: | RangerDave [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | "Re" - convenient or obnoxious? |
Most everyone is familiar with the abbreviation "re" (for "regarding") from email subject lines, but I'm curious how people feel about it being used as part of a sentence in the body of an email or in a forum post. For example: "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you re the new deal we discussed last week." Does the use of "re" there seem natural and inconspicuous, or does it make you do a double take and/or annoy the sh*t out of you? Or something in between? |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Re" - convenient or obnoxious? |
RangerDave wrote: Most everyone is familiar with the abbreviation "re" (for "regarding") from email subject lines, but I'm curious how people feel about it being used as part of a sentence in the body of an email or in a forum post. For example: "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you re the new deal we discussed last week." Does the use of "re" there seem natural and inconspicuous, or does it make you do a double take and/or annoy the sh*t out of you? Or something in between? Don't get me started re e-mail etiquette. OK, screw it. the url tag pwns me. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/re#English |
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| Author: | damaged [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:08 am ] |
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I barely tolerate shortcuts when texting or over instant messaging. When I see it in email, when you should damned well be able to form a complete sentence, using real, full words, it just pisses me off. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:09 am ] |
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If I wasn't familiar with this person's communication style then I might read that as a typo: "you're the new deal we discussed last week." |
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| Author: | Müs [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:10 am ] |
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Obnoxious. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:11 am ] |
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Well, RD, as long as the person receiving the e-mail is a change agent and is aware of the back-of-the-envelope structure we laid out last night re the deal you discussed last week, it wouldn't be obnoxious at all. If that is not the case, I'd prefer to read, "Hey Bob, more about the deal...", because it's obnoxious to think people can't be assed to type a couple of letters more in a word. |
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| Author: | RangerDave [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Re" - convenient or obnoxious? |
Hmm, so a forum post like this is probably not kosher with you guys: "Lttp, but have to say re the OP that asking a/s/l is wtf-creepy, imho. Anyway, just my 2 cp. Ymmv."
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| Author: | Müs [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Re" - convenient or obnoxious? |
RangerDave wrote: Hmm, so a forum post like this is probably not kosher with you guys: "Lttp, but have to say re the OP that asking a/s/l is wtf-creepy, imho. Anyway, just my 2 cp. Ymmv." TL;dr. |
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| Author: | Elessar [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:59 am ] |
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meh, slightly annoying I guess. Does it take that long to type the extra 7 characters? |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Re" - convenient or obnoxious? |
Acceptable when using a less-than-typing-friendly medium or as an emergency procedure. |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:32 pm ] |
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Since folks aren't reading the link, here goes... "re" is a Latin word meaning "About, regarding, with reference to." It's a complete preposition, in and of itself, and not an abbreviation (although I thought so too before I looked it up). |
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| Author: | shuyung [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:36 pm ] |
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Or not. Wikipedia wrote: re = "(in) the matter of" = More literally, "by the thing". From the ablative of res ("thing" or "circumstance"). It is a common misconception that the "Re:" in correspondence is an abbreviation for regarding or reply; this is not the case for traditional letters. However, when used in an e-mail subject, there is evidence that it functions as an abbreviation of reply rather than the Latin word for thing. The use of Latin re, in the sense of "about, concerning", is English usage.
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Re" - convenient or obnoxious? |
shuyung wrote: Or not. Wikipedia wrote: re = "(in) the matter of" = More literally, "by the thing". From the ablative of res ("thing" or "circumstance"). It is a common misconception that the "Re:" in correspondence is an abbreviation for regarding or reply; this is not the case for traditional letters. However, when used in an e-mail subject, there is evidence that it functions as an abbreviation of reply rather than the Latin word for thing. The use of Latin re, in the sense of "about, concerning", is English usage. OP snippet: RangerDave wrote: but I'm curious how people feel about it being used as part of a sentence in the body of an email or in a forum post. For example: "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you re the new deal we discussed last week." Or ! not. or something like that... You trying to keep me honest, shuyung? heh, good luck with THAT! |
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| Author: | Lonedar [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:50 pm ] |
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Lazy writing FTL. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:55 pm ] |
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I would assume that they were using it as an abbreviation for "regarding", as RD suggested. Since I would expect someone using Latin to also use proper grammar, I would find it even more obnoxious that they were supposing to use Latin without using it properly. |
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| Author: | Noggel [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "Re" - convenient or obnoxious? |
For some reason, this has never bothered me. It just doesn't strike me as being on the same level as "b" , "r", or my personal unfavorite "ur". Maybe it's because it is a legitimate* shortening, whereas so many of these shortcuts only exist in writing anyway? I don't really know. I suppose it can be a part of douchey corporate language along with synergy and the rest, but I don't hate those words themselves... just that use of them. :p So re is usually ok by me! *edit: I say 'legitimate' meaning it affects the language itself. Spoken language is king -- writing is just something we use to convey it. |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:19 pm ] |
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Vindicarre wrote: I would assume that they were using it as an abbreviation for "regarding", as RD suggested. Since I would expect someone using Latin to also use proper grammar, I would find it even more obnoxious that they were supposing to use Latin without using it properly. RangerDave wrote: For example: The sentence it's used in seems fairly proper. "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you re the new deal we discussed last week." This one is just horrible. RLY. Quote: "Lttp, but have to say re the OP that asking a/s/l is wtf-creepy, imho. Anyway, just my 2 cp. Ymmv."
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Re: |
Taskiss wrote: Vindicarre wrote: I would assume that they were using it as an abbreviation for "regarding", as RD suggested. Since I would expect someone using Latin to also use proper grammar, I would find it even more obnoxious that they were supposing to use Latin without using it properly. RangerDave wrote: For example: The sentence it's used in seems fairly proper. "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you by the thing the new deal we discussed last week." "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you |
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| Author: | Müs [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:33 pm ] |
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Quote: "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you re the new deal we discussed last week." Bob, Re: Updates on the new deal <insert update here> Thanks, Tom |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Re: |
Vindicarre wrote: "Hey Bob. Just wanted to update you OK, I prefer the original. You didn't do justice to that at all. "by the thing the new deal"? I vote for "re"turning that sentence to it's original format. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:20 pm ] |
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Heheh, I just inserted my understanding of how "re" translates from Latin to English. |
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| Author: | Kirra [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:23 pm ] |
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I think I fall into the obnoxious catagory...I tend to type fast and don't use proper punctuation. I favor one long run on sentence. But, I only do that with friends! So, that's ok right? They can interpret my messages, just fine! |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:47 pm ] |
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Re: "[in] the matter of" More literally, "by the thing". From the ablative of res ("thing" or "circumstance"). It is a common misconception that the "Re:" in correspondence is an abbreviation for regarding or reply; this is not the case for traditional letters. However, when used in an e-mail subject, there is evidence that it functions as an abbreviation of reply rather than the Latin word for thing. The use of Latin re, in the sense of "about, concerning", is English usage. Obnoxious and ignorant. But hey, I'm not perfect either. |
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| Author: | Müs [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Kirra wrote: I think I fall into the obnoxious catagory...I tend to type fast and don't use proper punctuation. I favor one long run on sentence. But, I only do that with friends! So, that's ok right? They can interpret my messages, just fine! It really depends on the media used to transmit a message. In general, I have more tolerance for "msg" typed on a phone than I do for "msg" typed at a keyboard. But for business communications, there's no excuse for poor spelling or abbreviated words that don't need to be. We have a VP that uses ur and lol and u etc in his business communications to clients... I want to punch him in his **** throat when he does that. Its so goddamn unprofessional. |
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| Author: | Kirra [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:13 pm ] |
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I would never txt talk for work stuff..but I guess my communications could be considered ignorant 
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