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| Author: | Screeling [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Help me learn to like coffee |
It smells great, but tastes horrible straight. What should I start drinking and with what added in that will give me the caffeine, not spike my blood-sugar, not load me down with sodium, and not substantially raise my fat intake? Tea just isn't cutting it anymore. |
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| Author: | LadyKate [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:09 pm ] |
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Just learn to drink it black. It's an acquired taste, no matter what you put in it its still gonna taste like coffee, and if you're just doing it for the caffeine and not the pleasure then just suck it down. I mean, that's like saying what can I put in my beer to make it not taste like beer and more like soda. 
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| Author: | Nitefox [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:10 pm ] |
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Start with a mocha with a shot of espresso. I don't dig black coffee either. It's either milk and sugar or some kind of mocha latte. Love the ones I get at DD. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:18 pm ] |
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I love the smell of coffee, and coffee flavoring...but not coffee itself. When I do drink coffee (something of a rarity), I wind up pouring in enough sugar-free sweetener and skim milk to give it a lovely fishbelly-white pallor. |
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| Author: | NephyrS [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:26 pm ] |
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Cold brew. Much less bitter and acidic, and a touch less caffeine per volume. Mix in a ratio of 10 cups cold water : 1 lb of grounds, in a glass/metal container. Let it sit overnight (10-12 hours) strain out grounds, dilute 1:1 with water, and then drink either black or with milk/cream. 70% less acidic than hot brewed coffee. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:34 pm ] |
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Sugar free coffee mate liquid creamers. |
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| Author: | Nevandal [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help me learn to like coffee |
Screeling wrote: It smells great, but tastes horrible straight. I have the same problem. Until I bought some... Dunkin Donuts French Vanilla coffee. Buy 'em in small bags, you don't want to have ground coffee sitting around more than a week or two (unless ya vacuum seal it or something). Don't bother grinding your own unless you can afford an expensive burr grinder that will grind very evenly and not overheat from friction. Also, a lot of the coffee in grocery stores probably sits on the shelf for who knows how long, so if you're really concerned go to a local coffee specialty store and have them grind you up a nice light roast or house/breakfast coffee. They can probably also give you pointers but they'll probably recommend you buy some expensive machine that ya don't really need. If you have a regular cheapass coffee maker, here's what to do: Clean out your coffee pot with a round or two of vinegar, then a few hotwater flushes and make a pot or two of coffee to dump down the drain (you can skip that if you do more than 1 hot water flush...but for my own piece of mind I ran coffee through it cause I could still smell vinegar). When you make a pot of coffee, only put about half a pot of water in. At the very least, use cold water from your tap....filtered works better, or spring/distilled/RO water if you wanna bother. Fill up the grounds so that they're mounding up in the middle. The water drips down from the center so you want most of the coffee to mound up in the center. See, what happens is a few different things in the coffee get extracted depending on the temperature of the water and how long the hot water is in contact with the coffee. Basically, the flavor is extracted first, then bitterness. That's why I use half a pot of water. This way, it seems like I get all flavor and none of the bitter burnt taste that I used to. Before I did all this, my coffee came out extremely bitter and almost burned tasting and I stopped drinking coffee for a few months. Even tried an Aeropress (a single serving extention of the French Press...well, not exactly, but similar concept.) Don't bother with all of that--try these things in your normal cheapo $20 coffee pot first and then if that doesn't help you, try out an Aeropress or a French Press or some cold brewing method. Screeling wrote: What should I start drinking and with what added in that will give me the caffeine, not spike my blood-sugar, not load me down with sodium, and not substantially raise my fat intake? Tea just isn't cutting it anymore. I hate drinking my coffee black. I use coffee-mate powder creamer and the only good flavor is French Vanilla...Italian Creme is pretty good, though--tried a bunch of their different chocolate flavors and they suck, which is weird because I love mocha. I'd like to try the Cinnamon Vanilla....the Hazelnut and Almond are pretty good if that's your thing...but I think overall the French Vanilla is the best flavor to mix with the coffee. Now, I love Tiramisu, but the Tiramisu flavored creamer sucks because part of what makes Tiramisu so good is the layers and different textures and that is completely lost with the creamer. The coffeemate creamers already have sugar in them, too, so take that into account. As far as spiking your blood-sugar and all of that, you're on your own...but unless you're a diabetic or something, I can tell ya that a proper diet will help you maintain your blood sugar level even after a nice cup of coffee. Lots of lean protein and fruits/veggies/etc. I treat coffee as more of a dessert drink, and I can't stand drinking it black....then again, I'm not drinking 2 pots a day or anything, more like 2 pots a week, on occasion, etc. I suppose you can put creamer in to taste and then slowly ween yourself off of it, if you're really worried about all that sugar and cream. Oh and contrary to popular belief a normal 1 serving of coffee has more caffeine than 1 serving of espresso, also due to the extraction time. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:02 pm ] |
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There is no distinction between coffee and espresso, they're the same thing. All coffee drinks are made with an espresso base. |
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| Author: | Nevandal [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:04 pm ] |
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Lenas wrote: There is no distinction between coffee and espresso, they're the same thing. All coffee drinks are made with an espresso base. The extraction methods are different. Unless of course you make your coffee from espresso. Here in the USA when people say cup of coffee they want an American cup of coffee, and espresso means a shot. In other words "coffee" has more water in it than espresso. Also, most people use a drip brew and don't even know what the hell espresso is except that it's a shot and the douchebags that sit in starbucks all day think they're better than you cause they drink it. If you'd like to engage in a semantics argument I do accept Paypal donations. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:09 pm ] |
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"American" coffee is just espresso with water added to it. Auto-drip machines do this automatically. There still isn't a difference. Every coffee drink has an espresso base with other stuff mixed in. Edit - shamelessly stolen from The Oatmeal: Spoiler: |
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| Author: | Nevandal [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:12 pm ] |
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Lenas wrote: "American" coffee is just espresso with water added to it. Auto-drip machines do this automatically. There still isn't a difference. Every coffee drink has an espresso base with other stuff mixed in. Extraction method, dude. Extraction method. That's the difference. A properly made espresso with hot water added in will make a better cup of coffee than an auto-drip machine, but most people don't wanna dick around with an Aeropress or buy an expensive espresso machine. |
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| Author: | damaged [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:14 pm ] |
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It's not just how the essence is extracted, it's also the roasting process. I buy coffee in a medium roast. If you're making espresso, you buy espresso roast, which is a whole hell of a lot more roasted. |
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| Author: | Nevandal [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:15 pm ] |
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You can still make espresso with a lighter roast. I have, and it works well  With the Aeropress, that is. (yeah I know, no crema)....now I just keep the Aeropress around in case I ever want to make Tiramisu. The process is too involved to bother with now that I got my coffee maker working like I want it to. |
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| Author: | DFK! [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:49 pm ] |
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Screeling wrote: It smells great, but tastes horrible straight. What should I start drinking and with what added in that will give me the caffeine, not spike my blood-sugar, not load me down with sodium, and not substantially raise my fat intake? Tea just isn't cutting it anymore. Are you specifically looking for energy? Cuz if so:  Works wonders. Friend of mine who does CTSurgery buys by the case. |
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| Author: | Screeling [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:00 pm ] |
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Those don't work for me. To me, it was basically like the difference between 5 hours of sleep and 6 hours of sleep: Not much. |
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| Author: | DFK! [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:04 pm ] |
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Interesting. In that case, I find it unlikely that coffee will help in any volume less than that needed to burn an ulcer into your stomach lining. 5-hour energy has the caffeine of a coffee, for example. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help me learn to like coffee |
Just grab your balls and drink it black. My grandpa drank it black, so I drink it black. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:29 pm ] |
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Can't stand coffee myself, even mocha ice cream leaves me cold. Why not learn to self start. Otherwise, Diet Pepsi is the caffeine monkey on my back. |
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| Author: | Stathol [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:20 pm ] |
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No Doz? I'm only half kidding. If you're just trying to increase your caffeine intake for some reasons, that's the most direct way to go about it. Just don't go nuts. Figures vary, but for reference:
With respect to that last point, the exception is if you're pregnant. This increases the half life to something like 20+ hours. I trust that won't be an issue in this case. |
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| Author: | Caleria [ Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:49 pm ] |
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Screeling wrote: Those don't work for me. To me, it was basically like the difference between 5 hours of sleep and 6 hours of sleep: Not much. Interesting. One of those usually fixes me up on days when my *** is dragging. I don't drink coffee, either. I have been using some Acai berry fruit chews lately and they seem to be helping a bit. I eat one of those (about the size of a starburst) and take a multi-vitamin every morning, and I'm noticing a difference in energy levels (as opposed to only taking the multi-vitamin). Nothing drastic, but it certainly helps me. |
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| Author: | Nevandal [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:02 am ] |
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Try Speed Stack. Normal energy drinks don't do anything for me, and that includes the little 5 hour energy shots. Oddly enough, coffee does. Weird thing about me too is I don't get any type of withdrawals from caffeine--no headaches--the only negative effect I get is if I drink coffee (or speed stack) on an empty stomach it'll make me feel jittery and weak. Go down to a Complete Nutrition or something and purchase a bottle of extreme speed stack (fruit punch flavor is the bestest) and try that out. Now it's important to realize caffeine really won't wake you up if you're already tired...it'll just make you not be able to sleep....and if you're actively doing something the drink will give you a bit of a boost. ymmv Best thing to do is drink a LOT of water all the time and stretch and do light exercise for 15 min when you wake up--it's not a workout but it'll make you feel way more energetic throughout the day. |
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| Author: | Aizle [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:41 am ] |
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Poor man's mocha: Hot Chocolate Mix + Coffee. Easy and usually free at most offices. |
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| Author: | NephyrS [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:48 am ] |
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Also remember: The darker the roast you drink, the less caffeine is in it. |
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| Author: | Aethien [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:19 pm ] |
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Hey, Scree, maybe you're a Supertaster? I thought I might be, but then realized that they generally have an aversion to coffee (and some other foods). You just may have too many fungiform papillae to like the stuff. I drink mine black - when it's bad, I just think of it as medicinal. When it's good, it's wonderful - kind of like wine-tasting, where you can identify different "notes" in the coffee. |
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| Author: | Amanar [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:47 pm ] |
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Why would you intentionally get yourself addicted to caffeine? Instead of forcing yourself to drink coffee, why not just learn to go without caffeine? If you really don't mind having to use drugs to wake yourself up in the morning/be productive, just take No-Doz. It's cheaper and it won't stain your teeth. Better yet, just upgrade to speed. It's much more effective. |
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