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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:13 pm 
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I need to hang 32" of drywall, height irrelevant, studs are standard spacing.

My problem is I have two pieces of drywall left and they are 24" so should I cut 8 inches off each piece or go 24" + 8" or some other oddball accommodation (21 +11, etc)?

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I'd keep the seem as low as possible (so go 24 +8 with 8 at the bottom) for two reasons:

If your spackle and paint aren't up to par the seem is below eye level and likely to be covered by furniture.

Two, in the event that damage to drywall is done its usually at arm/elbow height (not going to matter either way) or really low - this makes replacing it easier if you can take out the are between boards and replace it smoothly without having to cut around the sheet (if its too big to just spackle).

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I would go with whatever ensures the edges of the drywall are on a stud, if possible, and if not then put something in for the edges to have something to keep them from caving in. Unless, of course, you like gaping holes when the seam flexes, which it will.


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Buy some full sheets of drywall.

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Vindicarre wrote:
Buy some full sheets of drywall.


That's cheating! :lol:


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Cut them however you need to ensure the edges terminate on a stud.

So if your studs are say 16" on center, Then each piece will need to be 16". You follow? If your studs are 8" OC, you can do a 24" piece and an 8" piece.

If they're 12" OC, you're kinda screwed :p

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Ohh I thought height was the issue, nm. Yes you want both pieces to end on a stud.

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Or just make an inconvenient window or door.


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Elmarnieh wrote:
Ohh I thought height was the issue, nm. Yes you want both pieces to end on a stud.


A wooden stud. Not you.

I don't want to see a post later saying "Help! Drywall screws in my junk!"

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Or just make an inconvenient window or door.


Wouldn't that be a convenient window or door? :D

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Elmarnieh wrote:
I'd keep the seem as low as possible (so go 24 +8 with 8 at the bottom) for two reasons:

If your spackle and paint aren't up to par the seem is below eye level and likely to be covered by furniture.

Two, in the event that damage to drywall is done its usually at arm/elbow height (not going to matter either way) or really low - this makes replacing it easier if you can take out the are between boards and replace it smoothly without having to cut around the sheet (if its too big to just spackle).


This.

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Müs wrote:
Elmarnieh wrote:
Ohh I thought height was the issue, nm. Yes you want both pieces to end on a stud.


A wooden stud. Not you.

I don't want to see a post later saying "Help! Drywall screws in my junk!"


LMFAO!!!

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Ok to clarify, the height of the drywall will be ~10 inches so seem height is not the problem, nor elbows, etc. Kicks could be though.

Essentially it is an unfinished step that leads into the crawl space in the attic.

The walls around it are drywall so actual wood would look off. Once I've drywalled the step I am going to put in a door to replace the fancy curtain the previous owner had hung there :P

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Or just make an inconvenient window or door.


Wouldn't that be a convenient window or door? :D


That would really depend on where it is. And how tall it is. I mean, it could really go either way.


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Hopwin wrote:
Ok to clarify, the height of the drywall will be ~10 inches so seem height is not the problem, nor elbows, etc. Kicks could be though.

Essentially it is an unfinished step that leads into the crawl space in the attic.

The walls around it are drywall so actual wood would look off. Once I've drywalled the step I am going to put in a door to replace the fancy curtain the previous owner had hung there :P


Putting drywall on the riser of a step is a really bad idea. Besides the fact that a wood riser will take a on more abuse and not require constant repair to dents or holes, if you finish the wood properly with fine grit sandpaper, once painted with appropriate paint, it would look less weird to have the risers be the trim color and not match the wall board.

If you absolutely insist the riser look like the walls in color and texture, you can put a thin l layer of mud over the wood and lightly sand it to fill any visible grain lines and make the painted surface identical to the wall near it.


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If you absolutely insist the riser look like the walls in color and texture, you can put a thin l layer of mud over the wood and lightly sand it to fill any visible grain lines and make the painted surface identical to the wall near it.


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Or you could remove the rest of the facings of the risers, so everything matches.


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I don't think I am being clear in my description...

Here is what I am dealing with:
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PS: This is NOT my house but the picture is exactly what I am dealing with except my doorway leads into a crawlspace so there will be pretty much 0 traffic in and out.

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Yeh, just rock it and caulk it.

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Drywall would cut it, or plywood, as long as you have a piece with a nice side, fill, sand, work complete, outside of the finish. Can you turn either of the pieces of drywall you have sideways and cut it to height?


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damaged wrote:
Drywall would cut it, or plywood, as long as you have a piece with a nice side, fill, sand, work complete, outside of the finish. Can you turn either of the pieces of drywall you have sideways and cut it to height?

Both pieces are ironically 2x2. :roll:

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I figured that is what you were describing, and I can assure you, putting drywall in that application is a bad idea, and will only result in you having to replace it.

Any kick surface like that should be a solid and impact resistant. Plywood would work, but I personally would recommend just buying a 3'-0" length of 1x8 and being done with it. It would be cheap, and a 1x8 would go from the floor level to the sill and cover the gap nearly perfectly (probably won't require any additional cuts), depending on the sill condition. The sill/threshold in that sample picture is badly done.


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Just use sheets of ice, replace as needed.


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Id use plywood coated with spackle and sanded smooth then paint. You should get the look of drywall with the durability of wood.

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Müs wrote:
Yeh, just rock it and caulk it.

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