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Author:  RangerDave [ Fri May 14, 2010 10:28 am ]
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Well, that does it for me. I've been teetering on the fence for a while, but this cinches it - time to cancel my Facebook account.

The Atlantic wrote:
Mark Zuckerberg's personal IM conversation from college couldn't have been unearthed at a worse time. The Facebook founder has been under increasing pressure to give his users better privacy safeguards. In fact, his company hosted an in-house meeting at 4:00 p.m. today to discuss just that. Now Business Insider has published a chat conversation from Zuckerberg's Harvard days, in which he calls users who trust him "dumb [expletives]." Though BI warns that it could be just "silly dorm-room chitchat," Facebook did not refute the IM's authenticity in its response to Business Insider. Here's the conversation followed by some reactions:

Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb [expletives].


Sorry, dude. Even in college I was a privacy hawk. You're an *ss, and no, I don't trust you. (By the by, my gf kinda knew this guy at Harvard, and confirms that he's every bit the arrogant prick his detractors claim he is.)
Author:  Aizle [ Fri May 14, 2010 11:06 am ]
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Thanks for posting this. I was teetering on the fence as well. Time to cancel mine too.
Author:  Hopwin [ Fri May 14, 2010 11:48 am ]
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Lol
Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Fri May 14, 2010 12:16 pm ]
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Perhaps this will be of interest for you to follow, then.
Author:  Aizle [ Fri May 14, 2010 12:28 pm ]
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yeah, I saw some initial info on that. Definately going to be worth keeping tabs on.
Author:  Screeling [ Fri May 14, 2010 12:57 pm ]
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They all look like douches though.
Author:  LadyKate [ Fri May 14, 2010 1:00 pm ]
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Well, before ya'll delete your facebooks, go do this first: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2936
Author:  Aizle [ Fri May 14, 2010 1:36 pm ]
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LadyKate wrote:
Well, before ya'll delete your facebooks, go do this first: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2936


Sorry, but what Elmo said in that thread. The whole way they setup Apps in Facebook turned me off from the start. That compiled with how the CEO treats privacy means not just no, but hell no.
Author:  Darkroland [ Fri May 14, 2010 2:17 pm ]
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I'm very excited about diasporea. Been waiting for someone to take out facebook for awhile.
Author:  Raltar [ Fri May 14, 2010 8:41 pm ]
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I better go delete my face...oh wait, I never signed up in the first place. Honestly, nearly every person I know that uses facebook acts just like the town of South Park did in their facebook episode.
Author:  Noggel [ Fri May 14, 2010 8:53 pm ]
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Got my Facebook account towards the end of my MS degree program. We were all everyone else's friend. Tight knit group!

Then we all graduated and moved far far apart and fell out of contact.

Since then, only people that have stalked me down from high school have tried to friend me. I've not really logged back in since seeing that.

I gather there are two sort of people -- those that will friend whoever and enjoy the spotlight of their status update going out to all 100+ of them, and those who don't understand why that is in any way desirable. I don't think the latter sort see much value in Facebook as-is. Perhaps this Diaspora one can keep the (very few, IMO) good things about Facebook without all the nonsense around it, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Social stuffs need people to work, so if it never really gets momentum going in the first place...

Maybe I just haven't figured out all the new etiquette Facebook demands of you. I don't know the protocols or consequences for denying friends, coworkers, bosses, etc. Easier to just avoid it altogether. :(
Author:  Jocificus [ Fri May 14, 2010 10:10 pm ]
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I'm still pretty amazed that something similar to fb hasn't popped up yet. It's been long enough now that you would think there'd even be a couple acceptable alternates.

That Zucker guy is literally running fb into the ground all by himself. Their horrendous policies on private data don't help the situation of course.

Unfortunately I have to continue to use it, there's a few groups I'm in that use it for disseminating information and such that would be hard to get otherwise. I am far more mindful of what I put up and what information I put in though.
Author:  Aethien [ Sat May 15, 2010 12:55 am ]
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There are, like, a billion alternatives ... overseas. Not so much here, I guess. I'm in Noggel's second group. Kind of signed up by accident to view someone else's profile one day, and all of a sudden, people were throwing snowballs at me. I killed my account soon thereafter.
Author:  Roophus Gunthar [ Sun May 16, 2010 3:46 am ]
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With the growing privacy issues with Facebook, I've been considering deleting mine as well. I really don't like the direction this social networking is heading, especially how open people themselves are becoming. Even without concerns about privacy on Facebook's end, there are still major privacy issues with posting things publicly on their site.

For example:

There's a young 20's female at my work who goes out pretty much five nights a week. She's what people would refer to as a "Facebook whore." She routinely goes out with a few of her friends from work, and probably many of her 5,000+ facebook friends. So Female A (the Facebook whore) posts all kinds of updates and pictures about how she went out with her girls Tuesday night. Female B, one of the girls she went out with was plastered all over the pictures and Facebook walls, talking about how awesome it was. Female B arrives at work not feeling well from the night before and leaves early with a "headache." Female A is friends with the whole damn building. Everyone knows what happened.

Examples like this just go to show how little privacy people even have amongst themselves, with self-inflicted privacy issues you could say. In some cases, Female B is getting fired because of stupid friends who share everything.

I can't believe how naive people are about their updates. If I were a complete stranger to Female A, a person who happened to become friends on Facebook, I'd know her entire schedule within two days. I'd know exactly where she's going to be, what she did, and probably quite a bit of other information about her. It's crazy to think how open Female A is to share everything about herself with literally 5,000 other people who she vaguely knows.
Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Sun May 16, 2010 8:29 am ]
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There's no real sense in deleting your account. Doing so doesn't remove the data they've collected from you. The best you can do is not give them any more.
Author:  Roophus Gunthar [ Sun May 16, 2010 1:43 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
There's no real sense in deleting your account. Doing so doesn't remove the data they've collected from you. The best you can do is not give them any more.

True. That's kind of a scary thing to be honest.
Author:  Lenas [ Sun May 16, 2010 3:20 pm ]
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Better to leave them in the past with old info than to keep feeding them.
Author:  Roophus Gunthar [ Mon May 17, 2010 1:01 am ]
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Lenas wrote:
Better to leave them in the past with old info than to keep feeding them.

The common argument I hear people use is that they have nothing to hide, so why bother? Of course, privacy issues are privacy issues, in my book.
Author:  RangerDave [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:18 am ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
There's no real sense in deleting your account. Doing so doesn't remove the data they've collected from you. The best you can do is not give them any more.


I think there's a difference between deactivating your account, in which case everything is retained in case you want to reactivate in the future (I'm sure that's the reason) and deleting your account, which does wipe everything. At least, that's what it sounds like according to their Help Center.
Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:40 pm ]
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So, you're going to take the word of the people you don't trust with your info?

Uh huh.
Author:  Aizle [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:54 pm ]
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Nuked mine this morning.

Not sure it's take the word of Kaffis as hope for the best.
Author:  Aizle [ Mon May 17, 2010 1:14 pm ]
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Hmm, appears I was 2 weeks early...

http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/17 ... ay/?hpt=T2
Author:  Xerxes [ Sat May 22, 2010 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bye bye, Facebook!
More reasons to get out if you have Facebook, or Myspace http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100521/tc_ynews/ynews_tc2189

Or even to not join, if you've contemplated joining either of them.
Author:  Roophus Gunthar [ Sat May 22, 2010 11:25 pm ]
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The site has snowballed into a Walmart of the internet. People all talk how much they hate it, but they'll continue to go there. FB has it's talons deep into the internet. It won't be letting go anytime soon, privacy issues or not.
Author:  Hopwin [ Mon May 24, 2010 6:45 am ]
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There really is not any useful information on Facebook about me. You could get more with a perfunctory search of whitepages.com.
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