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| Author: | Müs [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:34 pm ] |
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| Author: | Talya [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:48 pm ] |
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Is that what they expect in 40 years? It says "America 2050" on it, but it looks oddly like current population numbers. If it is supposed to be 2050, it's assuming zero population growth in 40 years for the greater toronto metropolitan area, since it shows "3-6 million," and it's today it is already closer to 6 million than 5 million. (Some people say it's 8 million, because they include the other circles inside that big one as part of it.) |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:53 pm ] |
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Cool graph! But 2050 is too far ahead to try to draw these trends. Anything could happen at that point. For example did people at 1960 predict that some countries would actually lose population due to birth control? Far more radical things might take place by 2050. Wikipedia wrote: Globally, the growth rate of the human population has been declining since peaking in 1962 and 1963 at 2.20% per annum. In 2009 the estimated annual growth rate was 1.1%. Since we're making arbitrary predictions, why not add in a city of space aliens, several nuclear fallout zones, etc? Maybe we'll all be part robot by then and won't reproduce the old way? Just too much unpredictability. edit: Also people might not care where they live if transportation improves, if the Internet is so awesome that going outside is boring, majority of people work from home, etc. |
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| Author: | DFK! [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:00 pm ] |
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I think the idea of projecting continuation of sprawl that long really ignores very strong possibility of peak oil well within that time. That said, interesting graph, if rather context-less. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:03 pm ] |
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DFK! wrote: I think the idea of projecting continuation of sprawl that long really ignores very strong possibility of peak oil well within that time. That said, interesting graph, if rather context-less. Solar power will take over soon enough, way before 2050. The costs of solar energy are quickly decreasing. Quote: New research by leading alternative energy research firm New Energy Finance finds that solar power will cost less by about 50% at the end of 2009 compared to the end of 2008. http://cleantechnica.com/2009/11/27/sol ... last-year/ |
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| Author: | DFK! [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:15 pm ] |
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Lex Luthor wrote: DFK! wrote: I think the idea of projecting continuation of sprawl that long really ignores very strong possibility of peak oil well within that time. That said, interesting graph, if rather context-less. Solar power will take over soon enough, way before 2050. The costs of solar energy are quickly decreasing. Quote: New research by leading alternative energy research firm New Energy Finance finds that solar power will cost less by about 50% at the end of 2009 compared to the end of 2008. http://cleantechnica.com/2009/11/27/sol ... last-year/ And how will solar plants power cars, which are effectively the cause of sprawl? |
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| Author: | Noggel [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:02 pm ] |
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The vast majority of Pennsylvania that's shaded on that map is woods. Not even farms. Woods. It includes Pittsburgh which deserves a spot. It inclues Erie which just tops the 100k mark. It reaches out to just about include Altoona (50k) and State College (something like 50k also... except for 7 Sundays a year where it's the 3rd largest city in PA those days :p) Everywhere else is woods. |
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| Author: | Lonedar [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:13 pm ] |
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In Mega-city, I am the law. |
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| Author: | Lex Luthor [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:16 pm ] |
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DFK! wrote: Lex Luthor wrote: DFK! wrote: I think the idea of projecting continuation of sprawl that long really ignores very strong possibility of peak oil well within that time. That said, interesting graph, if rather context-less. Solar power will take over soon enough, way before 2050. The costs of solar energy are quickly decreasing. Quote: New research by leading alternative energy research firm New Energy Finance finds that solar power will cost less by about 50% at the end of 2009 compared to the end of 2008. http://cleantechnica.com/2009/11/27/sol ... last-year/ And how will solar plants power cars, which are effectively the cause of sprawl? Just off the top of my head, we could use solar power to create hydrogen. |
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| Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:23 pm ] |
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The DC-Boston corridor has long been predicted to become America's first megalopolis. Really, all it needs is the establishment of a unified high-speed rail to link up the various subways/elevated train systems. I suspect that peak oil would accelerate that, actually. Also, on a more local note, I can definitely see the Cin-Day corridor merging pretty solidly in the next 20 years if the Dayton economy gets out of its funk. The I-75 corridor is already pretty close around here.. just a few rural gaps either side of Middletown/Franklin, and even then, we're talking less than 10 miles, really. If Dayton itself were larger, it'd be up there with Dallas-Ft. Worth, and only slightly more sprawly, geographically. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:44 pm ] |
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They wanted to increase the coridoor to four lanes each way all the way up to here I was told. |
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| Author: | darksiege [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:50 am ] |
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Lonedar, Like this? or like this? |
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| Author: | Nevandal [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:48 am ] |
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sweet, i live smack dab in the middle of the cursed earth 
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| Author: | Squirrel Girl [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:27 am ] |
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I live in Texas/Mega city 3! I feel SO special. |
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| Author: | Lonedar [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:23 pm ] |
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darksiege wrote: Lonedar, Like this? or like this? Yes! In particular the top selection. (I had, until it was stolen, an autographed CD) |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:29 pm ] |
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Mega-City Two here, as if I didn't know that already. according to the Angelinos, everything in California is a suburb of LA. |
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| Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:19 pm ] |
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Rorinthas wrote: They wanted to increase the coridoor to four lanes each way all the way up to here I was told. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Even Sidney's still BFE, and I don't see that changing in the next ten years. Also, 4 lanes all the way up there? They're not even done getting 4 lanes downtown through Dayton, not to mention they just finished the 70/75 interchange and left it at 3! |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:30 pm ] |
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Maybe it was three. I know they wanted to do widening and exit consolidation and the locals want sound barriers. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:29 pm ] |
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I've read that I-75 is one of the safest and smoothest interstates in the USA. Hope they don't mess with that. Especially as I use it once in a while. (And pretty much ALL of it when I do.) |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:37 pm ] |
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Wait, Mus are you trying to freak us out with some Judge Dredd paraphernalia? dude, didn't Stallone ruin that enough for you? |
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| Author: | Müs [ Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:59 pm ] |
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I ab' da lawhhh! |
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