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Author:  Shelgeyr [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:17 am ]
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Not really intending this to be a question of right or wrong, just wondering what y'all were taught in school. Also, when and where were you taught this word?

Dilemna / Mid-70s / Cape Cod, Mass

Author:  Lex Luthor [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:19 am ]
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I was taught dilemna. One day I learned it was actually dilemma and it really frustrated me that my teachers lied.

Dilemna / Medway MA / 90s.

Author:  Corolinth [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:28 am ]
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I was unaware that a spelling other than the correct one was being taught.

Author:  Colphax [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:44 am ]
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Corolinth wrote:
I was unaware that a spelling other than the correct one was being taught.

This.

Author:  Shelgeyr [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:12 pm ]
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Totally not making it up. Wiki-confirmed, with links to external sources:

Wikipedia wrote:
There exists an alternate spelling of dilemna which many students were taught in many areas of the United States and all over the world, including (but not limited to) France, London, Yorkshire, Jamaica and Australia.[1][2][3]

Author:  Kirra [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:27 pm ]
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Lex Luthor wrote:
I was taught dilemna. One day I learned it was actually dilemma and it really frustrated me that my teachers lied.

Dilemna / Medway MA / 90s.



Why would you think they lied to you, instead of maybe having some other reason? Do you really think they were plotting to have you spell it "dilemna" instead of "dilemma"?


Just curious

Author:  Corolinth [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:29 pm ]
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dilemna

That spelling is also not legal for Scrabble according to the official Scrabble player's dictionary. An alternate spelling implies that both spellings of the word are correct, which is not the case.

Author:  Lex Luthor [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:31 pm ]
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Kirra wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
I was taught dilemna. One day I learned it was actually dilemma and it really frustrated me that my teachers lied.

Dilemna / Medway MA / 90s.



Why would you think they lied to you, instead of maybe having some other reason? Do you really think they were plotting to have you spell it "dilemna" instead of "dilemma"?


Just curious


I was just exaggerating. I'm sure they thought it was spelled dilemna.

Author:  Khross [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:48 pm ]
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The OED wrote:
Quick search results
No dictionary entries found for ‘dilemna’.

Check your search and try again.

Author:  Shelgeyr [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:52 pm ]
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I suppose it's sad that I thought my disclaimer would have any effect whatsoever on the way some people would respond to this thread.

Author:  Lenas [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:56 pm ]
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Dilemma in the 90's

Author:  Khross [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:58 pm ]
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I can honestly say that in all my years of dealing with the word "dilemma", this is the first time I've ever seen "dilemna" mentioned as an intentional and deliberate spelling taught by anyone. Consequently, I read the wikipedia entry, checked its three sources (all forum threads elsewhere on the internet), and then proceeded to see what the OED had to say on the manner.

Author:  Noggel [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:06 pm ]
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Hrm. I took a lot of Greek in my undergrad program and I can't figure out where you would even get -mn- from. g is the usual screwy consonant in Greek.

Author:  Lex Luthor [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:07 pm ]
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I exclusively saw it everywhere as dilemna until I started going on the Internet a lot. At least that's what I remember.

Author:  Lex Luthor [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:09 pm ]
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Noggel wrote:
Hrm. I took a lot of Greek in my undergrad program and I can't figure out where you would even get -mn- from. g is the usual screwy consonant in Greek.


Maybe it's like the word "damn".

Author:  Stathol [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:18 pm ]
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Pretty sure "damn" is just a shortening of "damnation", but someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'd look it up on the OED, but since they re-did their website, I've lost my ah...access and can't be assed to go find another atm.

Author:  Shelgeyr [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:28 pm ]
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Can't come up with a logical explanation as to the reasons for the "dilemna" spelling, but there are several words that end in 'mn'.

Autumn
Condemn
Column
Hymn
Solemn

Author:  LadyKate [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:35 pm ]
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Dilemna, early 90s, Oregon Coast

Author:  Aethien [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:39 pm ]
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Dilemma. Don't remember when I was taught it, but I do remember it was cold and snowy, and we had to walk uphill both ways. Talk about a dilemma. :D

Regional (mis)spellings are funny. My wife - and MANY people in California, I think - say "re-la-tor" instead of "real-tor" for the folks who help you buy and sell real estate. I used to get frustrated by it, now I just let it go.

Author:  Ulfynn [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:57 pm ]
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"mm", early 80's, WA state.

This is strange. I wonder if it was a misprint in a batch of English books from a certain era and no teacher ever caught it or questioned it?

Author:  LadyKate [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:00 pm ]
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Ulfynn wrote:
"mm", early 80's, WA state.

This is strange. I wonder if it was a misprint in a batch of English books from a certain era and no teacher ever caught it or questioned it?


I dunno. With a lot of words there actually is some lee-way with spellings and pronunciations so it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that could have happened.
My English teacher in college bugged the crap out of me with the word "says" which she pronounced with a long "a" sound instead of the short "a" sound we usually use. So we all said "so and so sez" while she always said "so and so seighs."

Author:  Corolinth [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:00 pm ]
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Khross wrote:
I can honestly say that in all my years of dealing with the word "dilemma", this is the first time I've ever seen "dilemna" mentioned as an intentional and deliberate spelling taught by anyone. Consequently, I read the wikipedia entry, checked its three sources (all forum threads elsewhere on the internet), and then proceeded to see what the OED had to say on the manner.
So you're saying that wikipedia's sources on this matter are hardly authoritative?

Author:  Noggel [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:18 pm ]
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LadyKate wrote:
I dunno. With a lot of words there actually is some lee-way with spellings and pronunciations so it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that could have happened.
My English teacher in college bugged the crap out of me with the word "says" which she pronounced with a long "a" sound instead of the short "a" sound we usually use. So we all said "so and so sez" while she always said "so and so seighs."


Vowels change a ton! It's quite natural.

Consonants... not so much. That's what makes this interesting to me. It's not that they're immune to the same sort of changes as vowels, but it's a lot rarer. Still enough to be of mild interest.

Author:  Vindicarre [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:42 pm ]
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Dilemma / Mid-70s / Wisconsin

Author:  Hokanu [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:01 pm ]
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Dilemma Midwest 80s

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