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Author: | Stathol [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | My new old razor (edit: and brush!) |
TL;DR - I inherited a vintage razor. Restoration ensued. Film at 11. Yesterday I came into possession of my great grandfather's (father's mother's father's) old safety razor. It had been wasting away in box in my grandmother's garage for probably at least 27 years, and probably hadn't been used for 40. It looked pretty grim, like an old bronze cannon. Still, as soon as I got my hands on it, I could tell that there was actually a good razor somewhere under there. The twist-to-open mechanism still operated perfectly. Inside was a blade identical to the current Walgreen's house brand, which was eerily untouched by time. I guess when they say "stainless", they really mean it . The blade had obviously been used and the razor stored away without so much as a good rinse. There was still ancient soap and beard gunk on its underside. Long story short, it's a Gillette Super Speed. Gillette updated the original 1947 Super Speed Design in 1955. That base design, with unpainted tip, was sold up to 1966. This is usually called the "flare tip" version. From 1955 to 1959, they also sold two variations of the flare tip, distinguished as the Red-Tip and Blue-Tip models. These are all non-adjustable (i.e. fixed blade position) razors, but each model had a slightly different blade position, in contrast to the one-size-fits-all 1947 style. When the first adjustable Super Speed razor ("Fat Boy") was released in 1960, the Blue-Tip and Red-Tip variations were discontinued. All of the versions were nickel-plated brass, but the Blue-Tip had the option of an aluminum handle, probably to give it a lighter touch. Edit: Whoops, I forgot to mention: the Blue-Tip was the "light" (i.e. gentle) version, and the Red-Tip was the "heavy" (aggressive) version. The unpainted "flare tip" was in the middle. After about two hours of work with some Blue Magic, an old toothbrush, some toothpicks, q-tips, and a whole lot of buffing, it has markedly improved! (Click for gallery) I think I can still make some improvement in the all the crannies of the undercarriage, but I think I'm going to need some pipe cleaners for that. I might try a weak silver polish dip solution (salt, baking soda, foil lined pan, etc.), but I need to research how that might affect nickel plate (and the paint). I know silver plate can be eroded that way, and I don't want to damage the nickel. It's already worn thin in several places. I could have it re-plated for practically nothing, of course, but I'd strongly prefer not to. IMHO, this sort of thing is what gives a vintage razor its character and sense of history. I shaved with it this morning. It's going to take a few weeks to be sure, but I think I might like it more than my Futur. The results were pleasing; easily as close as I can get with the Futur, but it felt less aggressive to me. And I only keep my Futur tuned to about 2.5-3/6. This may be due in part to heft, but I suspect it's also due to a lower arch and shorter safety bar on the SS. Either way, I think it might have a better comfort-to-closeness ratio. But as I said, it's hard to tell from one shave. The real acid test is going to be me shaving in the shower, sans soap, first thing in the morning when I'm still not worth a damn. The sad truth is that I shave like that probably more often than I take the time for a real wet shave |
Author: | LadyKate [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:19 pm ] |
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That is really, really, really cool. |
Author: | Lex Luthor [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:29 pm ] |
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That's pretty cool. I didn't shave this morning because I had to make it to an early meeting. |
Author: | Shelgeyr [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:33 pm ] |
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Very nice. Similarities to my somewhat recent experience are entertaining. I've got the satin finish Merkur Futur and set it aside a couple of months ago when a friend found a 1959 Gillette Fatboy (E2) (like this one) at an estate sale and picked it up for me. |
Author: | Stathol [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: My new old razor |
The general consensus seems to be that you can't go too far wrong with any of the old Gillette models. I'd like to get my hands on a Fatboy and Slim one of these days, along with a 40s-style Super Speed. There seems to be pretty equal enthusiasm for all of these, but really even the later Black Handle models are regarded as pretty good shavers by most. On that note, a word of warning to anyone looking to buy Fatboys on eBay: easily half of the listings are really Slims. The one Shel linked is an actual Fatboy. If you care what you're getting, be sure you know how to tell the difference before you buy one. Bonus content: My father tracked down this old Gillette commercial that he remembered about the flare tipped Super Speeds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cyy_rziuk&t=00m26s |
Author: | Hopwin [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:05 am ] |
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That thing scares me, maybe I have been watching too much American Horror Story though... |
Author: | Rorinthas [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:17 pm ] |
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I keep wondering if this is right for me. At the urging of this board I went out a couple of years ago and brought a brush. I really noticed the difference just using it with my disposable cartridge razor |
Author: | Stathol [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My new old razor |
If you aren't sure, you can probably snipe a Gillette Slim adjustable for $20 or less on eBay without terribly much patience. If you want to go even cheaper than that, you can go on a fishing expedition in your local antique malls, estate sales, garage sales, flea markets, etc. Safety razors are nigh indestructable, and many good ones were mass produced, so there's no shortage of them on the market. Out of curiosity, how are you using your brush? Soap? Cream? |
Author: | Stathol [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My new old razor |
Round 2: The shaving brush I also now have my grandfather's old shaving brush. It's a Rubberset 502 pure badger brush. Pure badger is the lowest grade of badger brush, but a higher quality than boar brushes. The handle is plastic. Maybe bakelite, but I suspect something more modern. If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably 60s vintage. Although they are reasonably well-known burshes, there's surprisingly little historical information about them. Even armed with the brush number, I can find no means of dating it. I can't even determine when Rubberset stopped producing shaving brushes. I do know that Gillette used to partner with them, and they even produced some Gillette-branded brushes. I did find evidence an old eBay listing for this brush: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-shaving-brush-pure-badger-75855329 The handle looks the same, but there's no evidence on mine of any writing. And then there's this post on B&B: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/112849-Newbie-brush-hunter-here-ID-needed?s=67734060abf4bc3f2fb7647d9d4d075e It's almost the same, but again with the writing and this one doesn't have the radial ridge in the middle. Either my grandfather wore the paint completely off, or there are just multiple versions of this same brush and his didn't have writing. Mine is stamped with this information on the bottom. I'm not sure if that explains it or not. This time I actually thought to take before pictures. This is one of them. Click for an album of the restoration process. The handle has a faint marble pattern that's hard to see in still photos. At least, the bad iPhone variety of photos, anyway. Here's a video that makes it a bit more clear: The brush is already looking a little less yellowed, but it probably needs some more soaking and shampooing. I also want to treat it with some hair conditioner (seriously) to try to soften up and re-moisturize the hairs. The brush is a keep-sake, so for preservation's sake, I don't intend to actually use it as I will the razor. But a little bit of hair loss is probably an acceptable trade-off for getting them reconditioned and keeping them that way. And forgive me, but it really did smell funky. This is the best/only cure for that. |
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