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Author:  FarSky [ Mon May 14, 2012 4:37 pm ]
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http://www.movies.com/movie-news/george ... ranch/7883

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George Lucas' rich neighbors don't want him building a movie studio in their backyard. His response is the best thing he's done in years.

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, for four decades Lucas has owned a large swath of land in Marin County in the North San Francisco Bay and has spent the past few years trying to transform the ranch on it into a massive, nearly 300,000 square foot, state-of-the-art movie studio complete with day care center, restaurant, gym and a 200-car garage. His neighbors, however, have rejected it every step of the way. Despite the promise of bringing $300 million worth of economic activity to the area, the already-well off neighbors are worried about years' worth of construction activity and the additional foot traffic it will bring into their neighborhood once completed.

The local homeowners association has been such a thorn in Lucas' side that he's decided to abandon the studio construction entirely, issuing this official statement about Lucasfilm's withdrawal of the new studio:

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The level of bitterness and anger expressed by the homeowners in Lucas Valley has convinced us that, even if we were to spend more time and acquire the necessary approvals, we would not be able to maintain a constructive relationship with our neighbors.

We love working and living in Marin, but the residents of Lucas Valley have fought this project for 25 years, and enough is enough. Marin is a bedroom community and is committed to building subdivisions, not business. Many years ago, we tried to stop the Lucas Valley Estates project from being built, but we failed, and we now have a subdivision on our doorstep.


So what is George Lucas going to do with his property now that he's tired of his rich neighbors putting up a not-in-my-backyard stink? He wants to transform the property into low-income housing, naturally, ending their official statement with this zinger, "If everyone feels that housing is less impactful on the land, then we are hoping that people who need it the most will benefit."

He's working with the Marin Community Foundation to instead construct affordable housing for either low-income families or seniors living on small, fixed incomes. In order to smooth along the development, he's already given them all of the pricey technical studies and land surveys Lucasfilm spent years conducting. And we think that's just great. Because if there's one thing rich people will hate more than having movie magic made in their backyard, it's poor people moving in.

Mr. Lucas, we may hate you for turning your back on the original trilogy, but our hat is off to you on this one. Well played.

Author:  Raltar [ Mon May 14, 2012 4:43 pm ]
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lol

Author:  Numbuk [ Mon May 14, 2012 5:44 pm ]
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Awesome.

And as a side note, it's another bullet point for my list of "Why I specifically bought a house with no HOA."

Author:  Müs [ Mon May 14, 2012 6:36 pm ]
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Clever girl.

Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Mon May 14, 2012 8:07 pm ]
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That's awesome.

To be fair, I found "Red Tails" to be likeable.

Author:  Raell [ Mon May 14, 2012 8:39 pm ]
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At least he didn't sell the land to Wall Mart.

Author:  Jasmy [ Mon May 14, 2012 10:17 pm ]
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That is the best thing he has done in years!! :thumbs:

Author:  Rafael [ Mon May 14, 2012 11:20 pm ]
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This is the seed which sprouts the Galactic Empire.

Author:  Gilraen [ Tue May 15, 2012 12:08 pm ]
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Shades of Auntie Mame! That was well played indeed.

Author:  Ladas [ Tue May 15, 2012 1:17 pm ]
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Appears no shortage of fledgling Occupy protestors in this thread.

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Tue May 15, 2012 2:21 pm ]
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Ladas wrote:
Appears no shortage of fledgling Occupy protestors in this thread.


This move appeals to all sorts of crowds. The "love the poor", "hate the rich", and "don't tell people what to do with their property" folks can each find something to love.

Author:  Tangu Matraa [ Tue May 15, 2012 2:37 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Ladas wrote:
Appears no shortage of fledgling Occupy protestors in this thread.


This move appeals to all sorts of crowds. The "love the poor", "hate the rich", and "don't tell people what to do with their property" folks can each find something to love.


+1

Author:  Ladas [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:08 pm ]
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Ladas wrote:
Appears no shortage of fledgling Occupy protestors in this thread.


This move appeals to all sorts of crowds. The "love the poor", "hate the rich", and "don't tell people what to do with their property" folks can each find something to love.

Suitable point if not considering the language of the article that people are cheering clearly supports the "love the poor/hate the rich" mentality and the responses here favor the "stick to the stuck up neighbor" attitude that Lucas is displaying with the attributed quote.

Of course, the support in the thread could also just be nerd love for Lucas, or just love of irony, but what he proposes is nothing more than spite and caters to the Occupy resentment demonstrated across various venue. His "development" proposal is neither new nor unique to this valley. Carlin and Metallica just did it better.

Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:12 pm ]
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Besides -- REAL Occupiers know that these jackasses aren't the 1%.

Lucas is the 1%, as evidenced by the fact that he owns 30 acres of his own land in a high value, prestigious region and is ready to build a movie studio on it.

The assholes around him are the like 3% below the 1%. The 2-4%, if you will. This is readily surmised by the fact that they can afford to move in next to George Lucas, but it's a neighborhood that sprang up *after* he got there so its residents could leech off the cache and notoriety of *his* address.

Notice the development is called "Lucas Valley."

If anything, this is exactly the kind of thing liberals and Occupiers would hate -- it's the 1% targetting and oppressing the demographic Occupiers and liberals want to become -- rich enough to live in comfort and luxury (probably without unpleasant jobs, perhaps even jobs -- or, at the very least, hobbies afforded by their spouse's jobs -- that profess to be altruistic or charitable and allow social contact with the celebrity and wealth of the 1%...) without actually being so rich that they get targetted by aspiring wannabes as the 1%.

Author:  FarSky [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:13 pm ]
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I'm more in the "don't tell someone what to do with his own **** property" and "OK, *******, I have no problem turning your own words against you" camps.

Author:  RangerDave [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:49 pm ]
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I'm not such a fan of this move, actually. I mean, the general form of Lucas' message here is basically, "You think living next to a movie studio would suck? Well screw you! Here's something even worse - I'm going to make you live next to [a garbage dump] [a chicken farm] [a noisy highway] [a bunch of dirty, no good, low-income tenants] [some other suitably horrible alternative]!" He's saying that either he thinks low-income tenants are horrible or he thinks the other people in the neighborhood will see them as such, so either way, the whole thing only works as a "**** you" to the neighbors if the low-income tenants are perceived as a horrible thing by someone. In short, it's one rich ******* playing a joke on semi-rich assholes by "inflicting" poor people on them. Kind of a dick move all around, in my opinion.

Author:  Ladas [ Tue May 15, 2012 3:53 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Besides -- REAL Occupiers know that these jackasses aren't the 1%.

Lucas is the 1%, as evidenced by the fact that he owns 30 acres of his own land in a high value, prestigious region and is ready to build a movie studio on it.

The assholes around him are the like 3% below the 1%. The 2-4%, if you will. This is readily surmised by the fact that they can afford to move in next to George Lucas, but it's a neighborhood that sprang up *after* he got there so its residents could leech off the cache and notoriety of *his* address.

Notice the development is called "Lucas Valley."

If anything, this is exactly the kind of thing liberals and Occupiers would hate -- it's the 1% targetting and oppressing the demographic Occupiers and liberals want to become -- rich enough to live in comfort and luxury (probably without unpleasant jobs, perhaps even jobs -- or, at the very least, hobbies afforded by their spouse's jobs -- that profess to be altruistic or charitable and allow social contact with the celebrity and wealth of the 1%...) without actually being so rich that they get targetted by aspiring wannabes as the 1%.


I was curious, so I did a little bit of looking after reading this thread the first time. Its called Lucas Valley, as a designation the entire area, not a single, surrounding community. There are actually several different communities with their respective HoA entities. There is also at least one retirement home with a public garden space, and another area called "H-2" owned by James Hatfield, also proposed to be converted to low income housing (though I wonder what low income in this part of California constitutes).

The median home value of Lucas Valley Estates (if I recall the name correctly), one of several adjacent communities, is $1.1 million with a range of $750,00 to $2 million, if their real estate information is to be believed. That sounds high, but its California. In 2006, the average 4 bedroom house where I live was just over $200,000... compared to the lowest city reported in California (Bakersfield) at $411,000.

But then, I don't have an instant dislike for the concept of an HoA, and while I might disagree with some of the tediousness typical of those organizations, I also respect the members decision to have a collective voice in what directly impacts the value of their substantial investment.

Author:  Midgen [ Tue May 15, 2012 4:09 pm ]
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I love my HOA.

Frankly, I'm not sure how you could deal with the management of common areas, and the exterior maintenance (roof, landscaping, etc...) in a condo situation if we didn't have one.

My ~$300 a month is very reasonable, considering it covers all exterior maintenance, landscaping, exterior lighting, my water and sewer and garbage haul off, plus they maintain a cash reserve for emergencies and planned repairs (i.e. 25 year roof replacement, siding, etc...).

Author:  Rafael [ Tue May 15, 2012 11:26 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote:
He's saying that either he thinks low-income tenants are horrible or he thinks the other people in the neighborhood will see them as such, so either way, the whole thing only works as a "**** you" to the neighbors if the low-income tenants are perceived as a horrible thing by someone. In short, it's one rich ******* playing a joke on semi-rich assholes by "inflicting" poor people on them. Kind of a dick move all around, in my opinion.


There are more reasons than wealthy elitism as to they they don't want low income housing adjacent to their property. Low income fixtures drive down surrounsing property value for real reasons; let's face it, most Americans regardless of socioeconomic standing more highly value material wealth than preserving their ego in a way that lets them scoff at those "beneath" them.

Low income areas are strongly correlated to increased rates of crime.


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