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The only way the United States will do it is if the terrorists were poised to launch suicide bombs from the moon.

You sure about that? There aren't any less metals on Earth than there were 1000 years ago.

The Empirical States of America are rapidly going downhill.

Empirical means something completely different.

Xequecal wrote:

You sure about that? There aren't any less metals on Earth than there were 1000 years ago.

Yes, there is less metal on Earth than there were 1000 years ago. We've shot several tons of it into outer space. Some of it is now floating in the asteroid belt, some of it is hanging out around Neptune and Pluto, some of it is now on the surfaces of Venus and Mars, and some of it is leaving the Solar system altogether.

Author:	Vladimirr [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:18 am ]
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It's today. Been waiting for this for a while - the next one will be in the year 2117. North America didn't really get to see the previous one in 2004, and the last one before that was in the 1800s. For South Florida, it'll start just after 6pm, and we won't see the middle or end parts, but we'll be able to see the exterior and interior ingresses along with the black drop effect. I built a solar funnel a few months back just for this day. (Well, and to look at sunspots, because sunspots are relatively cool. (Ok, bad pun.)) Unfortunately, it's really cloudy this morning, hopefully that clears up, or you'll hear me complaining for the next 105 years. Useful links: http://www.transitofvenus.org <-- Information and viewing tips. http://www.heavens-above.com <-- Use to find your local transit times.

Author:	shuyung [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:17 pm ]
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I watched the beginning of the NASA EDGE broadcast from Mauna Kea. I missed first contact by about ten minutes, but I caught second contact.

Author:	Vladimirr [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:57 am ]
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Was cloudy Watched it online.

Author:	Aizle [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:32 pm ]
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So 105 years of complaining? /evilgrin

Author:	shuyung [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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One would hope, prior to 105 years elapsing, that science will advance to the point that anyone can assume the correct vantage point to observe a transit of Venus anytime they like. LIkewise a transit of Earth, a transit of Mars, a transit of Jupiter, etc.

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Author:	Corolinth [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:20 pm ]
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The only way the United States will do it is if the terrorists were poised to launch suicide bombs from the moon.

Author:	Aizle [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:47 am ]
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Sadly it's either that, or that we start hocking mineral rights on the moon or asteroids.

Author:	shuyung [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:16 am ]
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Corolinth wrote: The only way the United States will do it is if the terrorists were poised to launch suicide bombs from the moon. That's not entirely true, we just have to shoot all the beancounters at NASA and let the stargazers have control again.

Author:	Corolinth [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:41 pm ]
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Selling mineral rights on the moon and on asteroids isn't a bad thing. We will one day need those metals.

Author:	Xequecal [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:45 pm ]
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You sure about that? There aren't any less metals on Earth than there were 1000 years ago.

Author:	Micheal [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:14 pm ]
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The Empirical States of America are rapidly going downhill. We're still pretending we're number one, and in a lot of areas we are, but other forces or ascending and we are descending, becoming the 16th century Spain of the modern era. We need to start doing things ourselves rather than outsourcing it to save us the trouble.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:50 pm ]
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But there is certainly more and increasing demand over the last 1000 years for that same and finite amount.

Author:	Talya [ Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:05 am ]
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Need MOAR metals. Especially if we're to build my dreadnought from which I will crush the galaxy beneath my bootheel.

Author:	Corolinth [ Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:50 pm ]
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Xequecal wrote: You sure about that? There aren't any less metals on Earth than there were 1000 years ago. Yes, there is less metal on Earth than there were 1000 years ago. We've shot several tons of it into outer space. Some of it is now floating in the asteroid belt, some of it is hanging out around Neptune and Pluto, some of it is now on the surfaces of Venus and Mars, and some of it is leaving the Solar system altogether. Micheal wrote: The Empirical States of America are rapidly going downhill. Imperial. Empirical means something completely different.

Author:	Stathol [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:51 pm ]
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Don't forget that there is vastly more iron on earth than just what we can presently mine out of the crust layer (and rather shallowly, at that). As a fraction of the total iron on earth, I'd have to say the amount of iron lost/gained/rendered unusable in the last 1000 years is vanishingly small.

Author:	Corolinth [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:02 pm ]
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The fact that we are unable to mine that iron, and that it would likely be a bad idea even if we could, is another reason for the mining of asteroids. Furthermore, the total amount of iron available on Earth is of little consequence if we're building something in the outer Solar system. Not only would it be a longer trip to get supplies from Earth, but it's also a larger gravity well to accelerate out of than an asteroid.

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Author:	Micheal [ Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:23 pm ]
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True, I was tired and in a hurry.

Author:	Stathol [ Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:02 pm ]
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Corolinth wrote: Empirical means something completely different. Prove it.

Author:	Corolinth [ Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:21 pm ]
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You mean with empirical evidence? Like perhaps an observable dictionary entry?

Author:	Talya [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:32 pm ]
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Corolinth wrote: Xequecal wrote: You sure about that? There aren't any less metals on Earth than there were 1000 years ago. Yes, there is less metal on Earth than there were 1000 years ago. We've shot several tons of it into outer space. Some of it is now floating in the asteroid belt, some of it is hanging out around Neptune and Pluto, some of it is now on the surfaces of Venus and Mars, and some of it is leaving the Solar system altogether. Dont forget the small quantities that were reduced to their component subatomic particles. Also, entropy has a lot of terrestrial metal oxidizing and spreading itself around. While technicaly, the iron from rusted cars is still on earth, it's spread rust-dust all over the place, that will never be recovered as usable iron again.