Meh. I'm less broken up about the abortion thing than the being forced to buy government mandated insurance thing.

And my apathy is kicking in really hard. I just can't be bothered to really care anymore. They're just going to do whatever the hell they want no matter what the people seem to want.

Civil disobedience should come after civil obedience... getting out and voting.

Except, the problem with this philosophy is that civil obedience will not correct the problem.

I am not yet ready to give up on legal mechanisms for change. Ask me again in nine months.

Yes, I'm totally convinced that the motive of this author is to avoid funding abortions, not financial gain. He doesn't even bother to explain how Obama's executive order fails to prevent federal funding of abortion, let alone how the actual bill fails to prevent it. But he sure does a great job as painting the entire Democratic party and all Democrats as willful conspirators in a actual child-murdering conspiracy. Not actually something vaguely plausible like political or financial gain, an actual baby-killing conspiracy, because we know that every pro-choice person just loves the idea of abortions and tries to maximize how many are performed.

I wonder, if this guy actually has the balls to refuse to pay taxes, who wants to bet he'll refuse to pay them entirely under this excuse, rather than just avoid paying the ones demanded by the health care plan?

Except, the problem with this philosophy is that civil obedience will not correct the problem.

IMO, if my tax dollars pays for one abortion, that's one too many.

How are your tax dollars being used to pay for abortions, Ber? Honest question, not a gotcha.

Are we talking about indirect funding - e.g. someone qualifies for a federal voucher/subsidy for insurance, and they use it to help pay for a private insurance plan that covers abortion? If so, I don't see why that's any worse than the status quo.

IMO, if my tax dollars pays for one abortion, that's one too many. So your rant is pretty irrelevant; it does not matter how many Democrats or Republicans are pro-abortion. And I agree that change should be done by the voters in Nov., however, in this case pro-life folks need to be proactive rather than reactive. If we're reactive, it's because a baby has been killed and we helped pay for it. That's not something I want on my conscience. Unfortunately, since Obama changed the rules for foreign aid, it's highly likely that we pro-lifers have already funded abortions in other countries.

Last time I read it, the Bible was pretty all encompassing on it's whole Thou Shall Not Kill thing. Seems to me if you're doing to go along with this then you should have been doing this kind of protest years ago during Vietnam, Gulf 1 & 2, etc.

The "kill" part is very clear that it means murder. In the same law given by God, it required the people of Israel to put a man to death for killing another man. Give it a rest.

Ok, fine. Are you niave enough to think that we don't commit murder in our various black ops organizations? The point is still valid.

I find it very interesting how people will rationalize killing people.

Murder is unlawful killing. Killing by "black-ops" (a rather hollywoodish term, by the way) is sanctioned by the government. It is therefore not murder.