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NORTHAMPTON -- Six teenagers plus three juvenile students were charged today in connection with the death of Phoebe Prince, the South Hadley teenager who allegedly took her own life in response to a barrage of bullying.

The charges include statutory rape, violation of civil rights, criminal harassment, and disturbing a school assembly, Northwestern District Attorney Elizabeth Scheibel announced.

"Their conduct far exceeded the limits of normal teenage relationship-related quarrels,'' Scheibel said of the nine teens, the oldest of whom is 18 years old, now facing criminal charges.

Among those charged, according to Scheibel, were three teenage girls accused of violating Prince's civil rights, criminal harassment, and disturbing a school assembly. Two male teens are facing charges of statutory rape.

You can charge minors with statutory rape now? Isn't that basically outlawing sex for anyone under 18?

Xequecal wrote:

You can charge minors with statutory rape now? Isn't that basically outlawing sex for anyone under 18?

It says that some of the people charged are 18. It seems logical that they are the ones charged with statutory rape.

I should also point out that if, say, a 17-year-old has sex with a 10-year-old that's statutory rape too.

[...]she was subjected to verbal harassment and threatened physical abuse

People can find any reason to kill themselves... 80% of the time it is due to psychiatric disorders, IIRC.

Author:	Dash [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:54 am ]
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I think we've talked about the bullying issue here before havent we? This is a tough subject for me. I really dont know what the answers are. http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaki ... r_pho.html Quote: NORTHAMPTON -- Six teenagers plus three juvenile students were charged today in connection with the death of Phoebe Prince, the South Hadley teenager who allegedly took her own life in response to a barrage of bullying. The charges include statutory rape, violation of civil rights, criminal harassment, and disturbing a school assembly, Northwestern District Attorney Elizabeth Scheibel announced. "Their conduct far exceeded the limits of normal teenage relationship-related quarrels,'' Scheibel said of the nine teens, the oldest of whom is 18 years old, now facing criminal charges. Among those charged, according to Scheibel, were three teenage girls accused of violating Prince's civil rights, criminal harassment, and disturbing a school assembly. Two male teens are facing charges of statutory rape.

Author:	LadyKate [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:36 am ]
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Being a teenager is tough. Really tough. Having a strong support network including a loving family and good friends can make or break a person during their teenage years. Does I think bullying can push a young person over the edge to suicide? Absolutely.

Author:	Aizle [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:18 am ]
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Based on what's been released, this sounds like it goes WAY beyond the normal realm of child bullying. My question is where the hell were the parents in this? Her parents should have noticed she was upset and found out what happened. Then her parents should have addressed it with the other kids parents, who in turn should have dealt with their kids. If that didn't work, then you get the various authorities involved, whether at the school or the police.

Author:	Xequecal [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:24 pm ]
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You can charge minors with statutory rape now? Isn't that basically outlawing sex for anyone under 18?

Author:	Diamondeye [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:27 pm ]
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Xequecal wrote: You can charge minors with statutory rape now? Isn't that basically outlawing sex for anyone under 18? It says that some of the people charged are 18. It seems logical that they are the ones charged with statutory rape. I should also point out that if, say, a 17-year-old has sex with a 10-year-old that's statutory rape too.

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Author:	LadyKate [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:28 pm ]
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Xequecal wrote: You can charge minors with statutory rape now? Isn't that basically outlawing sex for anyone under 18? She was under the age of 16, they were over the age of 16. If they had all been 17 or all been 14 I don't think statutory rape would apply, would it?

Author:	Xequecal [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: Xequecal wrote: You can charge minors with statutory rape now? Isn't that basically outlawing sex for anyone under 18? It says that some of the people charged are 18. It seems logical that they are the ones charged with statutory rape. I should also point out that if, say, a 17-year-old has sex with a 10-year-old that's statutory rape too. The article says that one of the people charged with statutory rape is 17. Phoebe Prince was 15. If that automatically qualifies as rape, something is **** up.

Author:	LadyKate [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:38 pm ]
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hrmmm. According to Massachusetts state law the legal age of consent is 16 and the minimum age to prosecute for statutory rape has not been legally defined....so if a 17 year old has sex with a 15 year old in Massachusetts, you can legally charge the 17 year old with rape. http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/08/sr/statelaws/summary.shtml

Author:	Elmarnieh [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:53 pm ]
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Yes it is **** up - the statutory rape law.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:51 pm ]
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Most statutory rape laws are a morass of absurd attempts to make sure older people don't have sex with people too toung to meaningfully consent while at the same time trying not to make it criminal to be a teenager with hormones. Unfortunately, they tend to do an appalling job of it.

Author:	Stathol [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:00 pm ]
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I'd be wary to draw any conclusions given the complete lack of substantive details. Quote: [...]she was subjected to verbal harassment and threatened physical abuse This could be anything from serious harassment to typical teenage "I'm going to kick your ***!" drama. The fact that she killed herself isn't proof positive that the bullying was anything out-of-the-ordinary. I'm sympathetic, but depressed people -- especially teenagers -- don't always kill themselves for the most objective reasons. Of course, any kind of bullying is bad. But there's a big difference between "that's a shitty way to treat people" and "this is criminal and we should prosecute you for it". Of course, this may very well be exactly what the prosecuting DA is making it out to be. I'm just saying that I would need to see some actual evidence of actual criminal wrongdoing. Otherwise, well ... this is all very tragic, but I'm sorry to say that people do have a right to be assholes.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:50 am ]
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That's why we have trials to figure out all these minutiae.

Author:	Lex Luthor [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:11 am ]
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People can find any reason to kill themselves... 80% of the time it is due to psychiatric disorders, IIRC.

Author:	LadyKate [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:33 am ]
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Lex Luthor wrote: People can find any reason to kill themselves... 80% of the time it is due to psychiatric disorders, IIRC. According to this it's 90% http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publicat ... ml#factors

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Author:	Rynar [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:44 pm ]
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Massachussets law stipulates that educators and school administrators, police and rescue personel are legally required to report extreme cases of bullying. People are going to get in serious trouble over this.