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Author: | Kirra [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Is there a doctor in the house? |
Spoiler: This is why I went to college and not vocational school. Vocational school would have trained me in the skills necessary to do a specific job..say Med/surg or even ICU nursing. But my education has taught me how to critically think and prepared me for something broader than a specific job. Emergency medicine is a different type of thinking...and just because you have a MD or RN after your name doesn't mean you have the thinking skills necssary to help people in emergency situations. But, if it was a vocational education, we would have far fewer people with critical thinking skills than we do now. |
Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:16 pm ] |
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Exactly right. Doctors may begrudge the fact that people think they can help, but the fact remains - they are better equipped to help than probably anyone else. He may be a heart surgeon, or a orthopedic specialist, but he'll know how the body works, and where everything is. And they'll know how to check vitals and what they mean. A triage nurse would, I assume, be better equipped than many or most non-ER specialists, but pretty much any doctor (or Vet) would be better than the average population. |
Author: | Squirrel Girl [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Is there a doctor in the house? |
Interesting overall. I remember my brother, when he was a senior medical student, being at a concert in Georgetown when the man in front of him collapsed in full cardiac arrest. There was a cardiac surgeon there also, but my brother ended up caring for the man because he knew how to perform CPR, and the surgeon did not. |
Author: | Leshani [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:38 pm ] |
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Arizona has a good Samaritan law on the books, It requires anyone certified as an emt and above to stop and render assistance in case of emergency, to the best of their abilities (I've never heard of the actual required to stop and render being enforced), The same law also protects these people from being sued for improper or inadequate treatment. I do Know a couple people that have been protected by the law. that reminds me my first aid and CPR card are due in 30 days, time for class. |
Author: | Vindicarre [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:47 pm ] |
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I don't believe the AZ law (A.R.S. ยง 32-1471) requires that they come to the aid of someone. AFAIK, Good Samaritan Laws are about rendering Good Samaritans not liable for anything short of gross negligence, not forcing people to provide aid. |
Author: | Leshani [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:28 pm ] |
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I did a double check on that and you are correct. Though city employees in phoenix are required to stop. Humana hospital employees also have the same requirement/expectation, of their employees. I'm not sure of the other medical organizations. |
Author: | Kirra [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Is there a doctor in the house? |
Squirrel Girl wrote: Interesting overall. I remember my brother, when he was a senior medical student, being at a concert in Georgetown when the man in front of him collapsed in full cardiac arrest. There was a cardiac surgeon there also, but my brother ended up caring for the man because he knew how to perform CPR, and the surgeon did not. my point exactly..SG.. There were a lot of physicians that couldn't run a code that covered ICU it surprised me at first. But, after having to do it several times they got better. Practice helps, just having the Credentials after your name doesn't mean you are proficient in every area. |
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