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A Pontiac woman’s alleged theft attempt was foiled this week when her motorized cart became stuck at a Rochester Hills Meijer.

Jerrie Perkins, 30, is charged with unarmed robbery, resisting and obstructing a police officer and second-degree retail fraud.

Her bond was set at $15,000 by 52-3 District Magistrate Nick Camargo during arraignment Thursday.

Investigators said Perkins was attempting to leave the Rochester Road Meijer with more than $600 worth of stolen electronic merchandise when her cart got stuck and she was unable to drive out the door.

The door alarm was activated when Perkins passed through it around 9:20 p.m. Tuesday, and Meijer employees approached her asking for a receipt for the items.

Perkins — approximately 5 foot 2 and 400 pounds — shoved a loss prevention officer and hit her in the face, according to the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office.

A sheriff’s deputy arrived and asked Perkins to put her hands behind her back, but she “cursed at the deputy, balled her right hand into a fist and took a fighting stance,” according to a press release from the Sheriff’s Office.

The deputy pulled his Taser and told Perkins to put her hands behind her back, but Perkins brought her fist up over her head and looked directly at the deputy.

The deputy Tasered Perkins, who then complied with the deputy’s commands and was taken to jail.

Sorry

posting from phone sucks

The image of a 5'2" 400 pound woman taking up a "fighting stance" is the best part.

It took me a few seconds to figure out if those were fat rolls or boobs.

And the skinny one - that's a woman, right?

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And the skinny one - that's a woman, right?

I don't know that she's skinny. She is standing next to a woman who weights 400 lbs. and it is skewing my perspective.

No matter what law enforcement might have you to believe,
tasers are much less than 100% effective.

If you are struck with projectiles, drop to one knee, and begin coiling the filaments rapidly around your hand and elbow. When
you have the excess coiled, jerk the filaments out of the gun.

The weapon may be reloaded at this point. If you made it this far
the next shot probably won't be as accurate.

I have been hit by it; you cannot fight it.

Diamondeye wrote:

I have been hit by it; you cannot fight it.

What do the effects feel like? For instance, is the pain localized at the point of contact or more spread out? Do you literally lose the ability to control your muscles, or does it just hurt too much to think straight? Speaking of thinking, what happens to your thought processes - are they disrupted directly or, again, does it just hurt too much to think clearly?

I screamed like a little girl.

Law enforcement never claims TASERs are 100% effective. I've pointed out a number of their disadvantages on this board quite a few times.

As for your tactic, that is pretty much impossible unless the TASER malfunctions. The electrical pulse begins immidiately when the darts strike, assuming they both bite since a circuit must be completed. There is no time to coil filament.

Diamondeye wrote:

Wrong - One Knee was sufficient to absorb the initial voltage. As I said the look on the Deputy's face was priceless and bork you personally.

Author:	Kirra [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:59 am ]
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http://www.macombdaily.com/articles/201 ... 459127.txt Quote: A Pontiac woman’s alleged theft attempt was foiled this week when her motorized cart became stuck at a Rochester Hills Meijer. Jerrie Perkins, 30, is charged with unarmed robbery, resisting and obstructing a police officer and second-degree retail fraud. Her bond was set at $15,000 by 52-3 District Magistrate Nick Camargo during arraignment Thursday. Investigators said Perkins was attempting to leave the Rochester Road Meijer with more than $600 worth of stolen electronic merchandise when her cart got stuck and she was unable to drive out the door. The door alarm was activated when Perkins passed through it around 9:20 p.m. Tuesday, and Meijer employees approached her asking for a receipt for the items. Perkins — approximately 5 foot 2 and 400 pounds — shoved a loss prevention officer and hit her in the face, according to the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office. A sheriff’s deputy arrived and asked Perkins to put her hands behind her back, but she “cursed at the deputy, balled her right hand into a fist and took a fighting stance,” according to a press release from the Sheriff’s Office. The deputy pulled his Taser and told Perkins to put her hands behind her back, but Perkins brought her fist up over her head and looked directly at the deputy. The deputy Tasered Perkins, who then complied with the deputy’s commands and was taken to jail.

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:18 am ]
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I think rule number one of retail shoplifting is "be able to outrun the security." It's pretty clear 5'2, 400 lbs wasn't.

Author:	Lex Luthor [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:07 am ]
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Don't be disorderly, don't get tasered. Pretty much common sense.

Author:	Aethien [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:35 pm ]
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"You're gonna need a smaller Quickie."

Author:	Mookhow [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:20 pm ]
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Author:	Kirra [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:06 pm ]
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Sorry posting from phone sucks

Author:	LadyKate [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:45 am ]
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Kirra wrote: Sorry posting from phone sucks I still have not been able to master the art of copy and paste on my phone either so don't feel bad.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:48 pm ]
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The image of a 5'2" 400 pound woman taking up a "fighting stance" is the best part.

Author:	Rynar [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:19 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: The image of a 5'2" 400 pound woman taking up a "fighting stance" is the best part. Yeah. That's what got me too.

Author:	Midgen [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:24 am ]
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Diamondeye wrote: The image of a 5'2" 400 pound woman taking up a "fighting stance" is the best part. Maybe this will help... (that's her on the right)

Author:	Screeling [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:14 am ]
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It took me a few seconds to figure out if those were fat rolls or boobs. And the skinny one - that's a woman, right?

Author:	Rynar [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:24 am ]
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Screeling wrote: It took me a few seconds to figure out if those were fat rolls or boobs. The two are not mutually exclusive. Quote: And the skinny one - that's a woman, right? I don't know that she's skinny. She is standing next to a woman who weights 400 lbs. and it is skewing my perspective.

Author:	Screeling [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:55 am ]
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Rynar wrote: Quote: And the skinny one - that's a woman, right? I don't know that she's skinny. She is standing next to a woman who weights 400 lbs. and it is skewing my perspective. Fine, but that's a woman, right?

Author:	Micheal [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:16 am ]
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It appears to be a woman on the left. Her hair is back, she's wearing earrings and a necklace. That could be a woman's style shirt and I think I see breasts contorting the shirt, but she does look a little masculine.

Author:	Lenas [ Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:10 pm ]
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Your muscles pretty much just cramp up and spasm, you can't really control them. It hurts bad, but the pain is gone as quickly as it comes on.

Author:	Rynar [ Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:39 pm ]
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If you are holding in a massive turd, would your bowels let go?

Author:	Raell [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:04 am ]
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Quote: A Pontiac woman.... Love my home town... SO glad I only work there now.

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Author:	Jauspiced [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:37 am ]
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No matter what law enforcement might have you to believe, tasers are much less than 100% effective. If you are struck with projectiles, drop to one knee, and begin coiling the filaments rapidly around your hand and elbow. When you have the excess coiled, jerk the filaments out of the gun. The weapon may be reloaded at this point. If you made it this far the next shot probably won't be as accurate.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:18 am ]
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Law enforcement never claims TASERs are 100% effective. I've pointed out a number of their disadvantages on this board quite a few times. As for your tactic, that is pretty much impossible unless the TASER malfunctions. The electrical pulse begins immidiately when the darts strike, assuming they both bite since a circuit must be completed. There is no time to coil filament. More importantly, it will put you down if the circuit is completed. All the weaknesses of the weapon involve the unreliability of the darts, not the unreliability of the electrical pulse. Very, very few people can resist the electrical pulse, if any. I have been hit by it; you cannot fight it. You could, conceiveably, do what you stated after the pulse ends, but it would be very easy to pull the trigger and deliver another pulse while the person was trying to grab the filiment and wrap it. Then, there's the fact that if you drop to one knee, you're already going at least partway down and taking a position of disadvantage - which is rathe the goal of using the TASER in the first place. Maybe not as bad as going all the way down, but still far from advantageous. Then, we come to reloading. Yes, the weapon could be reloaded, but reloading the TASER is not easy; it requires more fine motor control than reloading a pistol, so the user is likely to transition to some other weapon at this point. That could be pepper spray, a baton, or possibly a firearm depending on what you were doing afterwards. Getting hit with any of those is a lot less fun than the TASER; pepper spray can give you 45 minutes of agony as opposed to 5 seconds. I know, I've taken a hit from that too. The baton is going to hurt like hell at the very least and in a fight you may not get struck in some damage-resistant place like the front of the thigh. People don't tend to hold nice and still like training dummies. Finally, you may not know that the TASER does not need the darts to work. It has probes on the end, so with or without a cartridge it can be pressed against you and the trigger pulled to deliver a pulse. This will be less effective than the darts since the probes are a lot closer together but it will still hurt like hell and have some effects. I don't know where you learned this "yank the wires out" trick, but I think you would be... disappointed in the results if you ever actually tried it.

Author:	Lex Luthor [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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Jauspiced wrote: No matter what law enforcement might have you to believe, tasers are much less than 100% effective. If you are struck with projectiles, drop to one knee, and begin coiling the filaments rapidly around your hand and elbow. When you have the excess coiled, jerk the filaments out of the gun. The weapon may be reloaded at this point. If you made it this far the next shot probably won't be as accurate. You sound very much like an armchair expert, like those kids who play Counter Strike and think they know about guns in RL.

Author:	RangerDave [ Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:45 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: I have been hit by it; you cannot fight it. What do the effects feel like? For instance, is the pain localized at the point of contact or more spread out? Do you literally lose the ability to control your muscles, or does it just hurt too much to think straight? Speaking of thinking, what happens to your thought processes - are they disrupted directly or, again, does it just hurt too much to think clearly?

Author:	Diamondeye [ Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:56 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote: Diamondeye wrote: I have been hit by it; you cannot fight it. What do the effects feel like? For instance, is the pain localized at the point of contact or more spread out? Do you literally lose the ability to control your muscles, or does it just hurt too much to think straight? Speaking of thinking, what happens to your thought processes - are they disrupted directly or, again, does it just hurt too much to think clearly? Well, I ahve only been hit by the darts, not by the drive-stun where the TASER itself is pressed against you, but since that is by all accounts less effective I can only assume it is a lesser version of what I've experienced. Basically it feels like a hundred charlie horses at once, spread between the points where the darts hit. In my case it was alligator clips because we had two dozen guys to do and they cost IIRC $20+ a pop. You lose the ability to control the muscles between the contact points because the electricity passing between them is much more powerful than your brain's signals. It pretty much does hurt too much to tink straight. I screamed like a little girl. However, it does not hurt so much that you can't think at all, and the effects pass almost immidiately when the current stops. Nothing happens to your thoughts directly, electricity follows the path of least resistance so it does not normally get to the brain. The major muscle groups are the preferred target.

Author:	Müs [ Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:38 pm ]
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Diamondeye wrote: I screamed like a little girl. I'ma put this in my sig

Author:	Jauspiced [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:53 am ]
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Diamondeye wrote: Law enforcement never claims TASERs are 100% effective. I've pointed out a number of their disadvantages on this board quite a few times. As for your tactic, that is pretty much impossible unless the TASER malfunctions. The electrical pulse begins immidiately when the darts strike, assuming they both bite since a circuit must be completed. There is no time to coil filament. Wrong - One Knee was sufficient to absorb the initial voltage. As I said the look on the Deputy's face was priceless and bork you personally.

Author:	Diamondeye [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:58 pm ]
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Jauspiced wrote: Diamondeye wrote: Law enforcement never claims TASERs are 100% effective. I've pointed out a number of their disadvantages on this board quite a few times. As for your tactic, that is pretty much impossible unless the TASER malfunctions. The electrical pulse begins immidiately when the darts strike, assuming they both bite since a circuit must be completed. There is no time to coil filament. Wrong - One Knee was sufficient to absorb the initial voltage. As I said the look on the Deputy's face was priceless and bork you personally. Electricity does not work that way. I also don't know what incident or what deputy you are talking about.