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Author:  Rorinthas [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:35 am ]
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As not to clog the Europa thread. Farsky's admittance of late coming to Important Movies like Goonies, made me think about all the good movies I watched as a kid that haven't stood the test of time in the way that Star Wars/Trek, Back to the Future, and others have.

So here's my list, feel free to add your own.
Goonies
Iron Eagle (at least the first one, the rest are purely optional.)
The Last Starfighter
Flight of the Navigator
Short Circuit (both)
Gremlins (both)
Willow

I'm sure I'll think of more later and go Oh yeah at some of the selections of. A lot of these movies are ones I watched with my Cousin Lyndi. I'd think she'd have been comfortable in a community like this if she were still with us. I also have fond memories of Trek 4 from her. We lost her to cervical cancer in 1993. I didn't really know what a geek was back then, but I'm probably the geek I am today because of her.

Author:  Talya [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:54 am ]
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Rorinthas wrote:
As not to clog the Europa thread. Farsky's admittance of late coming to Important Movies like Goonies, made me think about all the good movies I watched as a kid that haven't stood the test of time in the way that Star Wars/Trek, Back to the Future, and others have.

So here's my list, feel free to add your own.
Goonies
Iron Eagle (at least the first one, the rest are purely optional.)
The Last Starfighter
Flight of the Navigator
Short Circuit (both)
Gremlins (both)
Willow

I'm sure I'll think of more later and go Oh yeah at some of the selections of. A lot of these movies are ones I watched with my Cousin Lyndi. I'd think she'd have been comfortable in a community like this if she were still with us. I also have fond memories of Trek 4 from her. We lost her to cervical cancer in 1993. I didn't really know what a geek was back then, but I'm probably the geek I am today because of her.


Let's start with just Disney movies. Most of these predate me, but I watched them all as a kid.

Treasure Island (Arrr!)
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
The Shaggy Dog
Swiss Family Robinson
The Parent Trap
The Incredible Journey
Mary Poppins
The Love Bug (and sequels)
Bedknobs and Broomsticks
Escape to Witch Mountain
The Apple Dumpling Gang
Pete's Dragon (First one of these I saw at the theatre)
The Cat From Outer Space
The Black Hole
The Devil & Max Devlin
Dragonslayer
TRON
Flight of the Navigator
Honey, I Shrunk the Kids
The Rocketeer
The Three Musketeers (Kiefer Sutherland version)

That's about as far as we can go before getting into the modern era of filmmaking...

Author:  FarSky [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:55 am ]
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Rorinthas wrote:
haven't stood the test of time
...
Gremlins (both)

Them's fightin' words!

Author:  Talya [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:07 am ]
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FarSky wrote:
Rorinthas wrote:
haven't stood the test of time
...
Gremlins (both)

Them's fightin' words!


I took that to mean, "Kids today have not necessarily seen them. They are remembered only by those who lived in that era." (As such I should probably take Treasure Island and Mary Poppins off that list, they are permanent classics...)

Author:  Darkroland [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:08 am ]
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Author:  Talya [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:12 am ]
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Thou shalt not call a modern Disney movie a relic of a bygone era.

(Actually, for animated films, I'd say Disney's modern era starts in 1989. There's a marked difference in style between what came before, and "The Little Mermaid." That style difference is maintained down to this day, with the last example being 2009's Princess & The Frog. Tangled, Wreck-it Ralph and Frozen may be the start of a new era, if Disney never returns to traditional animation.)

Author:  Hopwin [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:15 am ]
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How did this get by?

The Wizard of Oz

On to the more obscure:

The Black Crystal
Any/All Muppet Movies
Homeward Bound
Any children's movie featuring The Rock.

Author:  Ulfynn [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:00 am ]
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Dragonslayer (1981)

Author:  Numbuk [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:22 am ]
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As a kid I enjoyed movies that made me uncomfortably scared. The kind of scary where you say you don't like it, but you'll be damned if you stop watching it. There was a breaking point upper limit of how much scary I'd tolerate as a child younger than five* but for the most part I enjoyed the things that would likely not get aired today or marketed as a kids movie because parents of today have become far too pussified.

- Clash of the Titans (1981)
I was 3 and a half years old when my father took me to see this movie in the theater. I loved it. Medusa, Calibos, the stygian witches, Charron, and the Kraken were all the just right amount of scary. They pushed the envelope to make me uncomfortable, but not enough to be traumatized. I still love the movie to this day.

- Neverending Story
Wow. Now here's a movie that would never be made and marketed for kids today. Making little kids cry over the death of a child's best friend, his horse. Seeing a knight getting killed by the gateway to the Southern Oracle and then seeing the dead, charred, skeletal (with a bit of flesh) remains of him. Gmork, the wolf thing that was built for a child's nightmares and seeing him killed by impalement and seeing the red blood staining the weapon and hands of the child who killed him. Seeing another child in peril while the stuff in the attic goes nuts around him in a storm. Yeah, I cried when Artax died. Yeah, I was scared a bit in this movie. But, like Clash of the Titans, it was the right amount. And it ended on an awesome and happy note that any kid would love.

- Return to Oz
I wasn't quite the little kid anymore when this came out, but this movie is probably one of the last "scary" movies Disney ever did. Disney also used to push the scary envelope and there are a bunch us adults today who turned out just fine from it. This movie would never be made by Disney today and parents certainly would be in an uproar if it was. A little girl going through electro shock therapy. The wheelers. A headless woman and her cabinet of disembodied heads screaming at a little girl. Disney needs to go back to it's roots and release more stuff like this, Something Wicked this Way Comes, Night on Bald Mountain, etc.

- Labyrinth. Not a scary movie, but the Dark Crystal was mentioned so I figured I'd have to put this one in there.




* - The two movies that were too scary for me to handle but I still couldn't turn away (likely because I was too frozen to do anything) was a 70's B-movie that was on cable on a Sunday that apparently no adult noticed was on called "The Incredible Melting Man." Seriously, google that and tell me the images you find aren't traumatizing to a 4 year old.

The other movie was only a scene from a movie, not the entire thing. I was five years old and my parents took me to see Superman 3. I loved me some Superman. I saw it every time it aired for television. We go to the theater and it was empty enough that my parents said that since I was now a "big boy" that I could sit in the row in front of them, all by my lonesome. It was Superman, how scary could it be? Well, it was fine all up until a woman gets raped by a computer and transformed into a robot in the most disturbing and painful way possible to a small child.

Author:  Numbuk [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:23 am ]
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Ulfynn wrote:
Dragonslayer (1981)


I believe this was the first time I saw boobs on the big screen (the scene where the main guy finds out his companion is a lady). Great movie though, and ILM did a fantastic job with Vermithrax.

Author:  Talya [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:06 am ]
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Ulfynn wrote:
Dragonslayer (1981)


That's actually in my Disney list...

Author:  Aizle [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:24 am ]
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Flubber
The Private Eyes

Author:  RangerDave [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:42 am ]
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Few more for the Disney list:

Darby O'Gill & the Little People
Old Yeller
Condor Man
Journey of Natty Gann


Others:

The Black Stallion

Author:  Lenas [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:46 am ]
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Come on, guys, no mention of The Sandlot?! I am disappoint.

Author:  Hopwin [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:54 am ]
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Lenas wrote:
Come on, guys, no mention of The Sandlot?! I am disappoint.

I am ashamed.

Christmas Story
Beetlejuice
Nightmare Before Christmas (Claymation is not animated right?)

Author:  Numbuk [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:59 am ]
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Lenas wrote:
Come on, guys, no mention of The Sandlot?! I am disappoint.


You're killin' me, Smalls.

Author:  Raltar [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:00 pm ]
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I've watched and loved a lot of the movies already listed, but most of my childhood was spent watching 80s action movies. More often than not, they starred Arnold Schwarzenegger. Or Robocop.

Author:  darksiege [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:35 pm ]
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Rorinthas wrote:
haven't stood the test of time
...
Goonies


What you talking about Rorinthas?
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Just about all of the movies I used to love are already listed in this thread.

And with the Mention of "The Black Crystal" I do not suppose you meant The Dark Crystal Hopwin?

Author:  FarSky [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:56 pm ]
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The Cat from Outer Space, mofos!

Author:  Raltar [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:50 pm ]
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Oh wait. I have one that hasn't been mentioned: The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. And Time Bandits.

Author:  Midgen [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:12 pm ]
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Where The Red Fern Grows (1974)

I would have been 12 years old.

I had a serious love/hate with this movie...

Author:  FarSky [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:18 pm ]
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Midgen wrote:
Where The Red Fern Grows (1974)

I would have been 12 years old.

I had a serious love/hate with this movie...

:-|

I hated that book. Hated hated hated hated loved hated that book. Never saw the movie because **** that book.

#weepsatthememory

Author:  Darkroland [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:21 pm ]
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RangerDave wrote:
Condor Man


Man, I still quote Condor man. I'd be interested to see if it holds up.

"You bring the dip, I'll bring the Dostoyevsky."

While I like the list, I do think we're listing a lot that don't really need any scrutiny. Old Yeller, The Wizard of Oz, A Christmas Story, Nightmare Before Christmas, these are immortal (not to mention shown on cable constantly.) I was thinking more things like Condorman, Last Starfighter, and here's a double feature I remember seeing ALL the time growing up that seems to have been completely lost:

Not Quite Human, and The Boy Who Could Fly. Anyone else remember these?

Author:  FarSky [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:22 pm ]
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Darkroland wrote:
While I like the list, I do think we're listing a lot that don't really need any scrutiny. Old Yeller, The Wizard of Oz, A Christmas Story, Nightmare Before Christmas, these are immortal (not to mention shown on cable constantly.)

OK, whew.

Author:  Rorinthas [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:25 pm ]
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Taly wrote:
I took that to mean, "Kids today have not necessarily seen them. They are remembered only by those who lived in that era." (As such I should probably take Treasure Island and Mary Poppins off that list, they are permanent classics...)


Yeah, that. Movies that aren't still doing sequels, remakes, musicals or have popularity with future generations. Hence "obscure" in the title. By the same token I wasn't thinking of "Mom and Dad Movies" that were still popular when I was young yet "belong" to another generation. Old Yeller, Wizard of Oz, Nightmare are not a part of my "list because of one reason, the other or both.

However Pete's Dragon and the Devil and Max Devlin should have been on my list. Sandlot should probably be on there because it's cool, however it still gets a lot of cable play I think.

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