The Glade 4.0

Now that it's starting to get actual release materials (well, leaked ones, but still), figured it was time to break off from the "Superman 3.0" thread.

The teaser leaked. As much as I'd love it to be great...I'm not feeling it. This is what everyone's making such a fuss about? On top of their terrible track record, their dogged insistence on grimdark nonsense, losing Michelle MacLaren as the director of Wonder Woman...Jesus, DC, get your **** together.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/batma ... .ea1JGpAgp

Why is Bats asking Supes if he'll bleed? WTF? Why are they fighting? That's just kinda stupid.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Well I think there are at least two examples of them fighting in the comics but I believe Superman was under mind control for one of them. Personally I am more pumped for this than I am Star Wars. Love the dark Batman films recently.

Official release:

I think it looks awesome. I love the way Batman looks.

My only concern with borrowing the story from TDKR is in that comic they had known each other for decades.

Why does Batman have a **** sniper rifle?

Using mounted weapons on a vehicle to open a path is one thing. Batman should never, ever pick up a gun and point it at someone.

Never

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Batman used guns in 1939 and 1940. After that he wasn't shown using a gun again until he used Joe Chill's .45 to shoot Darkseid with a magic radon bullet. Using the gun used to kill your parents to save the world. Poetic and gut wrenching.

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"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

I'd watch it.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Dang, beat me to it.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

So, this is...the Joker...



It's in David Ayers' Suicide Squad movie (along with Will Smith as Headshot, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Jai Courtney as Captain Boomerang, and Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn), so based on DC's gamble for some of that sweet Marvel money, it ties into the same DC Cinematic Universe.

This is so weird. Everything I see from Marvel makes me more excited about projects in which I had no interest. Everything I see from DC makes me sad and depressed about stuff I should be excited about. I mean, Superman, Wonder Woman, the Joker...BATMAN, for ****'s sake. I should be bowled over by these projects even existing, but...*sigh*.

So this version of the Joker is a Juggalo, then?

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Heh.

I'll just say: that the internet seems to forget just how much it protested the idea that the guy from A Knight's Tale and Ten Things I Hate About You was announced to play the Joker. Like, they REALLY hated it. People were clamouring for all kinds of crazy **** like "Bring Nicholson back instead" and what-not. I, at the time, was for it. I saw Ledger disappear into roles like he did in Brother's Grimm and Casanova. I knew he'd pull out something amazing. But I distinctly remember being in the minority.

So, for that reason alone, I am willing to hold off judgment until I see Leto's performance. Hell, the ginger kid they got on Gotham did a fantastic job of channeling Nicholson, Ledger, and Hamill beautifully in 30 seconds time.

Having said that, his initial look leaves a bit to be desired. He looks more like a goon who got hired *on* to Joker's army, rather than the J-man himself. I really cringe at the "damaged" tattoo on the forehead. I think the thing that doesn't sit right with me the most is that I have a hard time believing these sequence of events happened, but they must have (and then repeated themselves again and again and again):

"Good day to you sir! What can I do for you?"
"I'd like a tattoo."
"Do you know what you'd like?"
"I have a couple concepts."
"Well there's a flip book if you want some inspiration or an exact copy."
"Thanks."
*Joker begins flipping through the book. After 10 minutes of pondering...*
"Can I get this skull, but with a jester's hat?"
"You bet! Have a seat."
*Joker then spends the next couple hours looking bored in the artist's chair, flipping through a few magazines on hand.*

Again, something like that had to have happened. More than once.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

Thankfully it's been revealed that those tattoos on the Joker aren't in the film. I am now okay with the look.

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/04/26/ ... nal,manual

I had no opinion about Ledger as Batman. Honestly, I thought it was the second best movie of that trilogy, anyway, (Begins was better) but Ledger's performance was fine.

Likewise, I have nothing against Ben Affleck. He may do a great job. I just can't shake the nagging suspicion that it won't help.

Every DC property WB touches has turned to ****. They have no concept of how to do the shared continuity across the multiple comic book properties that has made the Marvel Cinematic Universe so great. Oh, they had an idea. Bruce Timm's DCAU did it absolutely perfectly. But they've never handled it well in live action, and they're actively screwing it up as I type, by doing stupid **** like preventing the Flash/Arrow writers from using Batman or Superman in their plots. They did it in the past by vetoing Bruce Wayne's planned appearance on Smallville. They're not showing any signs of correcting the issues in philosophy that allow for shared continuity between different properties. Okay, maybe one sign - the shared continuity of Arrow/Flash. But beyond that, they're still segmenting things. This new movie doesn't even change that. This is ONE property. They're doing a Superman sequel with Batman and Wonder Woman in it. They're not making a series of new Bat Man movies or Wonder Woman movies and linking them together to make the Justice League. They are afraid of linking multiple properties together, and they don't realize that that's what is making the MCU so appealling.

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...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
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Me neither.

Bah. You had to remind me of the Bruce wayne veto of Smallville. "Adam Knight" started out awesome. Athletic, super smart (figuring out his secret, for example), catching the eye of his girl, etc.

I was totally sold. Then DC was dumb and backed out and Adam just became some zombie thing or some such.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

I wasn't opposed to Ledger as Joker, although I saw the outrage (he had never played a character even close to that before. )

Then he killed it.

Honestly, I think if they hadn't released this completely idiotic picture of Leto, people would be behind him. He's done a couple great character films lately.

Dallas buyers club, Mr nobody, Lord of war.

However, that picture is **** horrible. I think Leto will be an awesome Joker.

(Affleck will also be an awesome Batman, although I think the final picture will be... so bad.)

"Hey guys, remember Christopher Nolan's Batman movies? Everybody likes those, right? Well, except the third one. Well guess what! We're picking up an older, wiser, retired-er Batman in this one! But it's not actually part of the same thing. But if you want to carry over that goodwill, we certainly won't hold it against you! And hey, how 'bout that murdering Superman, huh? We know you love grim and edgy! That's why you loved The Dark Knight but hated Green Lantern, right, because it wasn't dark and broody? That must be it. We just want you to like us. And hey, Flash, amirite? 'Cept, uh, not the one you know and like. That's currently seen every week. Oh, and women! Well, just one. Don't wanna go too crazy, but we'll throw her in there somewhere too. Please just give us some of that sweet, sweet Marvel money see our movie."

Warner Bros. needs to die in a fire for their treatment of live action DCU characters. Arrow and The Flash are obvious bright spots; Green Lantern was full of squandered potential; but ultimately they keep dropping the ball. Even Nolan's films are kind of bleh after the first one. Ledger did an admirable job as a particular type of Joker (see The Killing Joke), but he wasn't the Clown Prince of Crime. So, we're left with people not going a good job with various properties.

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I think I'm the only person I know who has a really hard time trying to enjoy the flash.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

You're not the only one, though it sounds like it's a bit tougher for you.

I find the Flash doesn't just dance with the line between light-hearted and too cheesy; it club grinds with it.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Agreed on all counts, particularly the Joker bit.

Nolan's got two good films, but I'm hard-pressed to call them good Batman films. Begins is certainly closest, though (much like the Superman-kills-Zod and Pa Kent-sacrifices-himself-to-a-tornado in Man of Steel), I find that last moment between Batman and Ra's al Ghul ruinous. And The Dark Knight Rises was just so...not good.