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Author: | Rorinthas [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:38 pm ] |
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So yeah I yield. It only took me about ten pages of Storm Front to see why people who love the novels hated the TV series. |
Author: | NephyrS [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:08 pm ] |
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I got hooked this Christmas- reading #8 now, and then I need to read the two new ones. I started with 9 and 10, since they were all my local library had. |
Author: | Micheal [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:17 pm ] |
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Been reading them since the first three were out. I buy them in hardcover, can't wait for the paperbacks. I look at the TV series as something to help more people find the books. Look for the short stories he has inserted in anthologies of the genre, some of them are pretty decent and add to the story lines. |
Author: | FarSky [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:13 am ] |
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Yay, more converts! |
Author: | Jhorra [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:08 am ] |
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I read the first one, but just recently. I actually like the show better. |
Author: | Timmit [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:39 am ] |
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The series is great fun. It's hardly literature that will live through the ages and inspire new generations, but his books are consistently fun and that's all I really need most of the time ![]() |
Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:40 am ] |
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The comics are fun, too. |
Author: | Elessar [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:33 am ] |
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There was a TV series? I havent read a Dresden book in awhile, guess I should figure out where I left off and find the latest one. |
Author: | FarSky [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:37 am ] |
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A very short-lived SyFy (well, back then it was still spelling itself correctly) original series. It's on DVD now, all...twelve, I think, episodes of it. The Dresden TV wasn't very good...at least, it didn't start out very well. The Sci Fi Channel Firefly-ed it, and sabotaged the world-building of the early episodes. They adapted the first novel, Storm Front, to be a two-hour made-for-TV movie that was intended to be a backdoor pilot for a series (a la the Battlestar Galactica miniseries). They decided to take it to series before the movie aired, and then decided to air it not as the first episode, but to heavily edit it down to 45 minutes and make it a regular episode (I believe it aired...eighth or something). Around halfway through the series' run, it really found its footing and grew in quality by leaps and bounds. The books are still much better than the series, particularly once you hit book three or so. They're fantastic, and one of the few book series that not only doesn't peter out once you clear the first few, but actually gets better and better as its number grows. |
Author: | damaged [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:54 pm ] |
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I like the Dresden Files a lot, but I prefer Butcher's Codex Alera better. Then again, it's more an epic in scope kind of thing, where the Dresden Files are more like detective novels. Only with the supernatural, of course... |
Author: | Rorinthas [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:07 pm ] |
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I tore though Storm front and am really pleased. However it will probably be a while before I get back to the series. The next Honor paperback and the Gaunts Ghosts Omnibus (The Lost) come out next month. That's the problem with starting a new series. They have to go behind the Big three (Drizzt, Honor, and Gaunt) |
Author: | shuyung [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:38 pm ] |
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Apparently I haven't been keeping up. Is it a new mainline Honor Harrington novel, or an offshoot/anthology? |
Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:25 am ] |
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shuyung wrote: Apparently I haven't been keeping up. Is it a new mainline Honor Harrington novel, or an offshoot/anthology? Nope, it's fantasy. Harry's a Chicago wizard with an attitude and a beat up old car, a skull with a horny bound spirit, a foo dog bodyguard/companion and a problem love life. His best friend is a paladin and the paladin's daughter is Harry's acolyte, and Harry's mentor is a backwoods kinda country wizard. His brother sucks and there are werewolves that help out when he needs muscle. Oh yeah, and he's got a fairy godmother that is probably going to end up killing him.It's not really unique but it has been entertaining so far. A bit of a blend of Glen Cook and Tolkien, if that means anything to you. Philip Marlowe as Gandalf the Grey. Kinda gets formulaic towards the latter part of the series though, the protagonist gets greater and greater powers and responsibilities, the threats get greater and greater, and lurking in the background is a threat that is seeking to destroy all that is good and pure and probably contains large amounts of MSG so it's bad for your health... Harry's biggest threat seems to be that since power corrupts and he's so powerful, he walks a line between heaven and hell as he lays the smack-down on yet another bigger and badder bad guy. Good dialog if you like witty sarcasm, good good guys, bad bad guys, white is white and black is gray kinda stories. I've read lots worse, and it's one of the better current series out there these days. |
Author: | Micheal [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:33 am ] |
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Not really Taskiss, there is a lot of grey in the white as well. The white just has a few firm lines in the sand. |
Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:36 am ] |
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Micheal wrote: Not really Taskiss, there is a lot of grey in the white as well. The white just has a few firm lines in the sand. But you're a paladin - you see things that way by inclination. |
Author: | Timmit [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:10 am ] |
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The white council does some really shitty things due to their "ends justify the means" attitude. |
Author: | Micheal [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:12 am ] |
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Given the necessary level of power, I could be comfortable doing what needed to be done as a Warden. The Council I would never aspire to, I couldn't handle the power or the politics. |
Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:49 am ] |
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I have to say that I really enjoy Dresden Files. I like it because it's fairly tightly plotted and well-planned on a broad basis, and that allows for Butcher to maintain a high level of internal consistency and sort of dip back into earlier events for payoffs 2 or 3 books later in a very satisfying way. I don't find it particularly formulaic, outside of broad tropes and the fact that "everything seems to come together," which is really not something I take issue with when reading fiction -- I'm firmly in the camp that accepts that when stuff happens that doesn't ultimately tie into the plot, it just doesn't get made into a story. =P Butcher walks a good line between writing a mystery that I don't solve 10 pages into the second chapter and deus ex machina'ing via information that Dresden doesn't divulge to the reader until 3 pages before solving what's going on or things tying up via off-screen events that have been going on the entire time. Between that, the delightful and self-consistent world-building with familiar elements drawn together in interesting ways and combinations, the character progression and development (<3 Molly!), and Dresden's jaded/cynical-lite attitude and snarky wit cum-sarcastic narrative voice is really all I can ask for in a noirish urban fantasy. |
Author: | shuyung [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:43 pm ] |
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Taskiss wrote: Nope, it's fantasy. Harry's a Chicago wizard with an attitude and a beat up old car, a skull with a horny bound spirit, a foo dog bodyguard/companion and a problem love life. His best friend is a paladin and the paladin's daughter is Harry's acolyte, and Harry's mentor is a backwoods kinda country wizard. His brother sucks and there are werewolves that help out when he needs muscle. Oh yeah, and he's got a fairy godmother that is probably going to end up killing him. It's not really unique but it has been entertaining so far. A bit of a blend of Glen Cook and Tolkien, if that means anything to you. Philip Marlowe as Gandalf the Grey. Kinda gets formulaic towards the latter part of the series though, the protagonist gets greater and greater powers and responsibilities, the threats get greater and greater, and lurking in the background is a threat that is seeking to destroy all that is good and pure and probably contains large amounts of MSG so it's bad for your health... Harry's biggest threat seems to be that since power corrupts and he's so powerful, he walks a line between heaven and hell as he lays the smack-down on yet another bigger and badder bad guy. Good dialog if you like witty sarcasm, good good guys, bad bad guys, white is white and black is gray kinda stories. I've read lots worse, and it's one of the better current series out there these days. Thanks. I was actually responding to Rori's mention of a new Honor novel, but this is good, too. I haven't read any of the Dresden books from Butcher, although I have read his Codex Alera. From your description of the Dresden Files, you may be interested in reading Simon R. Green's series Secret Histories. |
Author: | Arbas [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:39 pm ] |
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Got the first ready to collect from the library tomorrow along with a Charlie Huston to speed the week over ![]() |
Author: | Taskiss [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:44 pm ] |
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shuyung wrote: Thanks. I was actually responding to Rori's mention of a new Honor novel, but this is good, too. I haven't read any of the Dresden books from Butcher, although I have read his Codex Alera. From your description of the Dresden Files, you may be interested in reading Simon R. Green's series Secret Histories. To the best of my knowledge, I've read every book Green has ever written. I liked the Hawk and Fisher series best, the Deathstalker the least.His "Tales from the Nightside" series is another good read. |
Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:54 pm ] |
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Okay, Ghost Story's out, and I'm done reading it now. Who wants to talk spoilers? |
Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:59 pm ] |
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Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:49 pm ] |
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Author: | Shelgeyr [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:00 pm ] |
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Way behind. I've only read the first 4. Got a job, now, though. Gonna be picking up more soon ![]() |
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