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The bottom line is that 3D is post-production lark...if 3D is actively making your movie better, or worth seeing, you have failed at making a movie.

Saw How to Train Your Dragon in 3D (IMAX 3D, no less), and I'm not sure it added all that much to it. Some of the effects were cool, but there was too much stuff coming out of the screen at you too early.

Going to see Avatar in 3D this evening, will let you know if I need to change my vote to #1 (I voted #2).

I think 3D is the is the biggest farce in artistic production since making a picture move.

3D Movies give me headaches!

Maybe that should be another poll - reserved seats for movies?

I think 3D is the is the biggest farce in artistic production since making a picture move.

Aethien wrote:

Maybe that should be another poll - reserved seats for movies?

I've never heard of such a thing, but I think I would like it better than having to get there way too early to get seats that aren't ridiculous.

{snip}

Author:	Rodahn [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:07 pm ]
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For me: option 4. While some movies, statistically speaking, may benefit from it, I largely see it as gimmicky.

Author:	Uinan [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:25 pm ]
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#2 for me. Thus far, I've found Avatar to be the first movie that I thought it added to the movie instead of being sort of a 'meh' after thought. I'll be seeing Clash of the Titans, which I think has 3d elements, when it comes out, so perhaps that'll help tilt me to either side.

Author:	Aethien [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:33 pm ]
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Saw How to Train Your Dragon in 3D (IMAX 3D, no less), and I'm not sure it added all that much to it. Some of the effects were cool, but there was too much stuff coming out of the screen at you too early. Going to see Avatar in 3D this evening, will let you know if I need to change my vote to #1 (I voted #2).

Author:	FarSky [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:44 pm ]
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It's a gimmick. I don't think it's a viable artistic choice, merely the most recent in a history of gimmicks that theaters have attempted in order to remain relevant in the face of the ever-increasing quality of home theaters. It's fun, when done well, and the current method of 3D is fairly inoffensive (aside from the recent 26% price increase for no reason other than to gouge the consumer. The bottom line is that 3D is post-production lark...if 3D is actively making your movie better, or worth seeing, you have failed at making a movie.

Author:	Rodahn [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:47 pm ]
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FarSky wrote: The bottom line is that 3D is post-production lark...if 3D is actively making your movie better, or worth seeing, you have failed at making a movie. Well said.

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Author:	Taskiss [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:43 pm ]
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If/when they ever develop the tech to do 3D without glasses, I can then see it as a mainstream marketable product. The requirement for glasses make it a gimmick.

Author:	Raltar [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:52 pm ]
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I've only seen a single movie recently(like within the past 5 years) that had 3D and that was Beowulf. It didn't seem to add to the experience and it was actually worse because I had to wear the glasses over my normal correctional lenses that I need to not be legally blind. I'm sure I wouldn't mind 3D so much if I didn't have to wear the glasses.

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:08 pm ]
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Aethien wrote: Saw How to Train Your Dragon in 3D (IMAX 3D, no less), and I'm not sure it added all that much to it. Some of the effects were cool, but there was too much stuff coming out of the screen at you too early. Going to see Avatar in 3D this evening, will let you know if I need to change my vote to #1 (I voted #2). See, I got the exact opposite out of How to Train Your Dragon's 3d use. It was so natural and subtle (instead of going for the gimmicky "gotchas" or "look how cool we can make this!" that lots of 3d movies, particularly earlier ones, fall into) that I essentially forgot I was in a 3d showing, while at the same time adding a lot of depth (no pun intended) to some of the visceral and thrilling scenes, like the various flying with Toothless. That speaks to me of immersion, and is, to me, a hallmark of making quality use of the 3d medium. Does the notion of wearing glasses annoy me? Yes. Is the concurrent arbitrary price mark-up a nuisance? Yes (though the local theater isn't as bad as Farsky's average by far). Can it be done extremely poorly, or without creativity and an eye for feeling natural? Oh, hell yes. But that's not the fault of the medium, it's a stylistic choice (and a poor one), so I find criticizing the 3d format for such things analogous to criticizing 2d films for shakey-cam.

Author:	Aethien [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:15 am ]
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I guess I just meant that in that opening scene, there seemed to be a few things thrown in for the gee-whiz effect. But overall, yeah, it wasn't too bad, I guess. Avatar was pretty cool, I have to say. I think the 3D worked better there, but that just might be because of all the hype I read about it. Price mark-ups? Tell me about it, and come to LA. I dropped over $100 on movies this weekend between How to Train Your Dragon ($70 for the family at IMAX) and Avatar ($33 for regular 3D for two of us). And /em shakes fist at the annoying assholes who took our seats tonight. It was reserved seating, so we got there plenty early, chose our seats, and went to get something to eat. 15 minutes of previews, we walk in about 1 minute before it starts, perfect timing ... But there are no empty seats in the row. So, I have to start counting and disturbing people. Turns out two people were in our seats, so I had to kick them out. ** dumb **, it's reserved seating, go sit where you're supposed to. I had the timing down perfectly and expected to find two empty seats. Maybe that should be another poll - reserved seats for movies?

Author:	Corolinth [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:34 am ]
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I think 3D is the is the biggest farce in artistic production since making a picture move.

Author:	Talya [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:50 am ]
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Corolinth wrote: I think 3D is the is the biggest farce in artistic production since making a picture move. I see what you did there. A movie can be filmed in 3d from the start, using a special binocular camera -and twice as much film- (and most completely 3d live action movies are, rather than done with post production effects.) It's a logical step, as it gives us a more accurate picture, much like HD did. 3D animated movies actualy have an advantage, as they only need to render the same video sequences a second time offset a couple inches to get a full 3D effect. That said, it can be used well, or used poorly. Too many movies that have had 3D lately have done so just to get the extra attention and ticket revenue.

Author:	Nevandal [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:04 pm ]
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Whatever. Taly's right. 3D is cool as hell. Around here, the ticket prices are the same as the 2D version. I don't know why everyone is *****. EDIT: what a poorly implemented censor.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:40 pm ]
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I don't care. However I think a crappy rehashed plot "IN 3D!!!!" is still a crappy rehashed plot.

Author:	Loki [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:11 pm ]
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3D Movies give me headaches!

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Author:	Aethien [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:51 pm ]
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Loki wrote: 3D Movies give me headaches! I noticed something last night, watching my second 3D movie in three days: You don't move your head normally the way you do while watching a 2D movie. I think it has something to do with subconsciously keeping the focus point steady, so you get the full 3D effect; but, for a 2-hour and 45 minute movie like Avatar, that's a long time to sit pretty much rock-still. I consciously started moving my head around to loosen up my neck. So, the headache could come from that, rather than the actual viewing, so to speak.

Author:	Darkroland [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:21 pm ]
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Aethien wrote: Maybe that should be another poll - reserved seats for movies? I've never heard of such a thing, but I think I would like it better than having to get there way too early to get seats that aren't ridiculous. As for 3-D, I believe it's simply one more film making tool. Right now it's the new hype machine getting people back into theaters and we're going to see a lot of exploitation of that. Movies re-released in 3-D, and lots of films that suck in 3-D (but probably suck in 2-D as well). It's the same as surround sound or moving from black and white to color. It takes the creators awhile to get comfortable with the medium. However, I will say, as someone who has a pretty bad-ass home theater, it is one of the reasons I will go see a film in the theater now. When I can buy the film on DVD for less than half what it costs to go to the movies with tickets and snacks, it's a tough sell (not to mention dealing with all the talkers/cellphone idiots/other people in the theater). I'm definitely planning to go see Clash of the Titans in the theater, and if it wasn't in 3-D I would probably be waiting for DVD.

Author:	Wwen [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:09 am ]
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Corolinth wrote: I think 3D is the is the biggest farce in artistic production since making a picture move. I've generally indifferent since it doesn't affect me one way or the other, but I also think it's a huge gimmick.

Author:	Aethien [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:11 pm ]
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Darkroland wrote: Aethien wrote: Maybe that should be another poll - reserved seats for movies? I've never heard of such a thing, but I think I would like it better than having to get there way too early to get seats that aren't ridiculous. {snip} It's only certain theaters, certain types of showings. It does make life easier ... So long as someone's not in your seat when you get there.