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Video of Seagal doing Randori with voiceover by his students. 10m. Pretty good stuff, better than most of his demo videos I've seen, IMO.

http://video.mail.ru/mail/camelot/78/489.html

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effing awesome video!

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Darksiege
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Ya know, I know his rep, and I know he's an ******* and all of that ... but every time I see him do stuff, I wanna do aikido. Fun stuff, thanks.

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There is something universally unjust about Steven Seagal. He's an ***. He is an unrepentant, conspiracy mongering, misogynistic *******. And he's one of the greatest Aikidoka I have ever seen.

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Some observations on that video:

1.) Either Seagal is one tall mofo, or he is surrounded by shorter people.

2.) It looked like people were just letting him take them down. Was any actual martial art being done there, or was it just more Movie Fu?

3.) I swear he has the emotional range of a turnip.

Yeah, I watched it, but I just can't bring myself to be impressed. The dude looks like a man playing with his children.

You don't make money ripping the limbs off your students. He doesn't want to hurt them or disable them. Going in real time, real attackers...

Still, the dude is a DB.

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Raell Kromwell

Reportedly 6'4" and I can believe that one. Still, his students look like kids beside him.

/agree Raell

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You have to understand something about the practice of this martial art - it is a key skill to be a good partner. First, because going with the technique actually mitigates the damage it does. And second, because you want to practice safely and with an eye towards learning.

The techniques will work even if someone resists. Again, with the caveat that applies to all martial techniques - when done correctly and with proper timing.

Randori is one of the most effective training tools I have ever experienced. It puts you in a mental state similar to that of actual confrontation, and forces you to stay calm and act.

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Thanks, Monte, that explanation helps. I've always had the same reaction of Rodahn and Uinan when watching some of those, almost looks like they're choreographed, etc. But what you say makes sense, especially after seeing the other videos where you have three guys actually trying to take the other guy down. That looked a bit more real.

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Taking a fall is very much an art (one I wish I was better at). The guys he's tossing about know how to best receive the damage he's dishing out. Resistance is a bit futile.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
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Yeah....this.


I'd like to see him do "Randori" against 3 Mike Tysons, then I'll be convinced.

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Ron Paul 2012

What you see as people just "letting him" take them down are people who have been caught in a lock. You may not see the lock, because it happens so fast, but it happened. That is, in fact, one of the things that is so impressive about both his technique and aikido in general: it requires very little expenditure of energy to disable an opponent, and he does it so fast you barely catch it.

Not believeable? I disagree. I've seen advanced sensei in other disciplines through punches so fast your brain barely recognizes they occurred.

Perhaps watch again and watch closely the locks he's putting on people. As Monty said, you either go with it to mitigate the damage (which a student would/should do), or you resist and get your hand/arm/etc. broken.

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Yup, I also noticed the locks, they are fast, but effective. If you've ever been put in one, you know it, there's not much else you want to do but stop doing whatever got you in the lock in the first place.

When Aikido is done properly, your body instinctively throws itself in order to avoid injury.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

I understand Aikido. I'd still like to see him try his techniques against Mike Tyson, though.

Small joint manipulation is a wonderful thing, if you can pull it off.

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Ron Paul 2012

Thanks, to you, too, for that explanation. (Wasn't here much yesterday.)

I stopped by an Aikido place on Tuesday and picked up a brochure. Looks interesting, but I think it's the same problem I had with SCA, though - it's a lifestyle choice to take up one of these martial arts fully, and one I've never quite been willing to make.

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The body doesn't always respond instinctivly in the best fashion possible. This is why people must first be taught how to fall before they are taught how to be thrown, and then learn how to throw.

Example: In a back fall position the instict is to throw your hands and/or elbows out behind you. You have to train this instinct out, because wrists break in this position and elbows take a pounding.. Better to accept the fall and roll with it.

A similar situation applies to forward falls, though the trained response should be different.

I totally agree, Riov.

As for Mike Tyson - My money is still on Segal. Please, give me more momentum. Give me a laid out punch with your body behind the blow.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Well, maybe. It doesn't have to be.

Stephen K. Hayes' blog said this recently:

http://www.skhquest.com/the-densho/

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One Tyson, sure. But THREE?

I dunno.

Or how about 3 Brock Lesnars?

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Holy shitsnacks!

Yeah. Even one Tyson...I'd think it'd be a tough fight. Seagal might be able to take him on, but he definitely wouldn't be able to wipe the floor with him.

Aikido (as demonstrated in this Randori video) is always talked about for being able to control multiple oncoming attackers without injuring them seriously. I just don't believe the aikido techniques are benefiting Seagal as much as his size, strength and trained responses of his sparring partners are.

That being said I do find Aikido to be one of the more interesting styles because it has the goal of disabling a threat without hurting them...which is what every martial artist should strive for.

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Ron Paul 2012

Yeah, this is actually what attracts me to it.

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This cold and dark tormented hell
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So when you get to heaven
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