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It really makes me wonder why the **** that scene wasn't included in the original cut. It was super bad ***.

I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal.

Rorinthas wrote:

I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal.

To me, it was a great way of showing Han to be a true, hardened scoundrel. That way, when we learn he's got half a heart, it's a meaningful development.

I missed it. Anyone have it saved or another link somewhere?

Rorinthas wrote:

I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal.

To me, it was a great way of showing Han to be a true, hardened scoundrel. That way, when we learn he's got half a heart, it's a meaningful development.

Meh. He's supposed to be a self-centered, materialistic, what's-in-it-for-me? guy. Shooting first sets him up as a murderous guy, which I don't think was ever the intention.

Interesting note: they just announced Star Wars Blu-rays to be released in 2011. I made mention of it on my social networking feeds, posting "STAR WARS Blu-rays announced. Lucas sez 'To maintain continuity, all current CGI characters will be replaced with their CLONE WARS models.'" I made up the last part, of course, as I was just snarkily commenting on Lucas's predisposition to fiddle with the films, and tried to come up with the most idiotic, outrageous change possible to let people know it was a joke.

I was immediately inundated with cries of dispair and anger. Which was even funnier, as it showed me that at this point, no bad idea Lucas could have regarding changes to the original trilogy seems out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Meh. He's supposed to be a self-centered, materialistic, what's-in-it-for-me? guy. Shooting first sets him up as a murderous guy, which I don't think was ever the intention.

Ok I found it. Very cool. I assume this it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18O-Rj2MP9Q

I've known about the "building the lightsaber scene" for a while. I didn't know it was actually shot, but I do know they had built a working lightsaber prop with "innards" for that scene specifically.

Author:	Monte [ Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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No, this is not a rickroll. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5MmqsL ... re=related

Author:	FarSky [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:01 am ]
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Interesting note: they just announced Star Wars Blu-rays to be released in 2011. I made mention of it on my social networking feeds, posting "STAR WARS Blu-rays announced. Lucas sez 'To maintain continuity, all current CGI characters will be replaced with their CLONE WARS models.'" I made up the last part, of course, as I was just snarkily commenting on Lucas's predisposition to fiddle with the films, and tried to come up with the most idiotic, outrageous change possible to let people know it was a joke. I was immediately inundated with cries of dispair and anger. Which was even funnier, as it showed me that at this point, no bad idea Lucas could have regarding changes to the original trilogy seems out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Author:	darksiege [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:37 am ]
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that scene made my nonospot tingle.

Author:	Raltar [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:48 am ]
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It really makes me wonder why the ** that scene wasn't included in the original cut. It was super bad *.

Author:	Darkroland [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:57 am ]
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Awesome scene! Regarding Lucas:

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Author:	Monte [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:20 am ]
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Raltar wrote: It really makes me wonder why the ** that scene wasn't included in the original cut. It was super bad . My guess is that the coolness factor of that scene is borne of the fact that the Universe is now so well known. Initially, it must have been dropped for stupid "need to cut this beast down some" reasons. We didn't need* to see Luke make his lightsaber, no matter how cool it was. At least, I imagine, that was the thinking at the time. It is a very, very cool scene, though. I watched the whole interview from that convention, and Jon Stewart was there interviewing Lucas. It was pretty fun. Stewart was his usual funny self, and a fan boi all at once. And I think Seth Green must have been in the audience. Stewart got a very cool gift - a storm trooper with his face, and an extra head that had him sporting his short lived beard.

Author:	Darkroland [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:03 pm ]
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Author:	Müs [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:41 pm ]
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I was pretty meh about it.

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:56 pm ]
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Okay, Darkroland, that was utterly awesome.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:17 pm ]
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I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal.

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:21 pm ]
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Rorinthas wrote: I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal. Yup. I've never really gotten the whole "up in arms over the SE" thing. For me it's always been about making Greedo look less incompetent (even though he misses, he at least has the presence of mind to shoot!), which thereby increases the elevation of Han's credentials. Whether or not people interpret it that way (because Greedo missed), is an entirely separate matter, so I think it's better to take issue with the effectiveness of the change, rather than the motivation in making it.

Author:	Hopwin [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:05 pm ]
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Wow Lucas Copyright murdered the clip!

Author:	Monte [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:20 pm ]
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Rorinthas wrote: I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal. To me, it was a great way of showing Han to be a true, hardened scoundrel. That way, when we learn he's got half a heart, it's a meaningful development.

Author:	darksiege [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:54 am ]
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Monte wrote: Rorinthas wrote: I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal. To me, it was a great way of showing Han to be a true, hardened scoundrel. That way, when we learn he's got half a heart, it's a meaningful development. This is how I feel about it too. It shows growth in the character.

Author:	Taskiss [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:45 am ]
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I'm not someone who cares whether or not Han shot first, I just play someone who does on the Internet.

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Author:	Numbuk [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:55 am ]
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I missed it. Anyone have it saved or another link somewhere?

Author:	Lonedar [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:13 am ]
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Numbuk wrote: I missed it. Anyone have it saved or another link somewhere? This.

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:23 am ]
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Monte wrote: Rorinthas wrote: I never understood the whole angst of whether or not Han shot first. I disagree with Lucas's characterization of the original scene, but it's not that big of a deal. To me, it was a great way of showing Han to be a true, hardened scoundrel. That way, when we learn he's got half a heart, it's a meaningful development. Absolutely this. He's not supposed to be a nice guy.

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:28 am ]
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Meh. He's supposed to be a self-centered, materialistic, what's-in-it-for-me? guy. Shooting first sets him up as a murderous guy, which I don't think was ever the intention.

Author:	Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:59 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote: Meh. He's supposed to be a self-centered, materialistic, what's-in-it-for-me? guy. Shooting first sets him up as a murderous guy, which I don't think was ever the intention. Shooting first goes hand in hand with "what's in it for me guy".

Author:	Nevandal [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:32 am ]
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FarSky wrote: Interesting note: they just announced Star Wars Blu-rays to be released in 2011. I made mention of it on my social networking feeds, posting "STAR WARS Blu-rays announced. Lucas sez 'To maintain continuity, all current CGI characters will be replaced with their CLONE WARS models.'" I made up the last part, of course, as I was just snarkily commenting on Lucas's predisposition to fiddle with the films, and tried to come up with the most idiotic, outrageous change possible to let people know it was a joke. I was immediately inundated with cries of dispair and anger. Which was even funnier, as it showed me that at this point, no bad idea Lucas could have regarding changes to the original trilogy seems out of the realm of possibility at this point. Duuuuude...I almost believe it. You're totally right, Lucas WOULD do that if he could. Kaffis Mark V wrote: Meh. He's supposed to be a self-centered, materialistic, what's-in-it-for-me? guy. Shooting first sets him up as a murderous guy, which I don't think was ever the intention. I'm not so sure, though. The best defense is a good offense! Maybe he's so good at his craft he instinctively knew he was going to be shot, so the only way to prevent it was to shoot first. Han shot first. Han is a good guy. Truck that shady Greedo mothertrucka.

Author:	Rorinthas [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:14 am ]
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Seems to me that the conversation was going downhill fast

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:19 pm ]
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Author:	Numbuk [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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Ok I found it. Very cool. I assume this it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18O-Rj2MP9Q I've known about the "building the lightsaber scene" for a while. I didn't know it was actually shot, but I do know they had built a working lightsaber prop with "innards" for that scene specifically.

Author:	Kaffis Mark V [ Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:48 am ]
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Numbuk wrote: Ok I found it. Very cool. I assume this it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18O-Rj2MP9Q I've known about the "building the lightsaber scene" for a while. I didn't know it was actually shot, but I do know they had built a working lightsaber prop with "innards" for that scene specifically. Because it wasn't. View Hamill's comments.