Yeah, it's a couple of names I don't recognize, and Damon Lindelof had some unofficial input. No Abrams around. Hence the "from the writers of 'Lost'" to keep the confusion open and helpful in publicity.
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| Author: | FarSky [ Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | "Once Upon A Time" and "Grimm" |
There are two fairy-tales-in-the-modern-world series coming out within a week of each other: ABC's "Once Upon A Time" and NBC's "Grimm." Digital outlets have a 20-minute preview of "Grimm" available and "OUaT" debuts tomorrow night, but IMDb.com has the full pilot up a day early. I enjoyed what I saw of "Grimm." It's co-created and overseen by David Greenwalt (who performed the same duties on "Angel") and has a very similar feel (detective finds out that he can see fairy-tale monsters who walk amongst us causing trouble, a skill passed down to him through his family and dubbed a "Grimm"). "Once Upon A Time" touts itself from being 'from the writers of "Lost," and I can't say I was thrilled by it. The plot is familiar (comic's "Fables," "The 10th Kingdom" miniseries, etc.) but that's no slam..."Grimm" is well-worn territory as well. But "OUaT" is poorly done. Campy without being enjoyable, terribly acted, unfocused and front-loading the story with unnecessary (and unenjoyable) exposition, and bereft of wonder or mystery (both of which they were clearly aiming for), it feels rather DOA to me. Phe wanted to watch it (hence the viewing), because she loved "The 10th Kingdom" so much, but even she wasn't thrilled. She (and I) will give it a few more episodes in which to find its stride, but so far...not impressed. Sadly, I see it staying on for a few years and "Grimm" not making it a full season (fairly expensive, on a network [NBC] with a lot to lose, etc.). As always, we'll see, though. |
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| Author: | Raltar [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:00 am ] |
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Quote: "Once Upon A Time" touts itself from being 'from the writers of "Lost," And they seem to think it's a good thing. When I saw "from the writers of Lost" I completely lost any interest I had in the show. **** the writers of Lost. Those guys suck. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:24 pm ] |
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Raltar wrote: Quote: "Once Upon A Time" touts itself from being 'from the writers of "Lost," And they seem to think it's a good thing. When I saw "from the writers of Lost" I completely lost any interest I had in the show. **** the writers of Lost. Those guys suck. If "from the writers of Lost" meant J.J. Abrams was involved, I'd be somewhat interested. I hated Lost, but Fringe is outstanding. The last Trek movie was pretty darn good, as well. Alcatraz looks like it will be fantastic. However, Abrams isn't involved in this. So yeah, I agree. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | "Once Upon A Time" and "Grimm" |
Yeah, it's a couple of names I don't recognize, and Damon Lindelof had some unofficial input. No Abrams around. Hence the "from the writers of 'Lost'" to keep the confusion open and helpful in publicity.
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| Author: | FarSky [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | "Once Upon A Time" and "Grimm" |
Oh, cool...follow the official "Grimm" Twitter page and they send you a code to watch the full pilot ep now. http://twitter.com/NBCGrimm |
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| Author: | Calador [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:01 am ] |
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Yeah, OUaT pilot was a bit meh, I'm going to give it a couple more episodes to see, since like Phe, I really like 10th Kingdom, and a lot of pilot episodes struggle. We'll see... Looking forward to Grimm as well, just hope it doesn't turn into another "The Cape" though, lots of promise, but completely botched. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:17 am ] |
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I am now watching five different shows competing in the "Friday Night Death Timeslot." This cannot end well. |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:18 pm ] |
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Grimm was very good. Cross between Buffy (the first season) and Van Helsing, but in a good way. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:09 am ] |
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I sorta liked them both. Willing to stick around and see where they go. |
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| Author: | Raell [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:11 pm ] |
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Rorinthas wrote: I sorta liked them both. Willing to stick around and see where they go. This...but I am easy to amuse. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:13 pm ] |
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Phe and I watched the second episode of Once last night, as well as the full pilot of Grimm. I came away even more intrigued than before by Grimm, while Once got even worse. Advance reviews say the third episode dials back some of The Campiness That Swallows the Series Whole, but right now they've got it cranked up to 11. |
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| Author: | Vindicarre [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:10 pm ] |
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Taskiss wrote: Grimm was very good. Cross between Buffy (the first season) and Van Helsing, but in a good way. Heheh, I liked it as well. I got more of a Dresden Files (sans Wizard) and early Supernatural cross. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:19 pm ] |
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Okay, I'm actually a bit...surprised. I just watched Once Upon a Time (episode 1). I had low expectations, of course. And...as much as I liked Grimm, I actually...liked the first episode of OUaT better, down to very bit of fairy tale imagery. Different types of shows, of course. Grimm is more Buffy/X-Files, while Once Upon a Time might as well actually be a fairy tale. But I love fairy tales...and that's without taking into account OUaT's spectacular cast. |
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| Author: | Ulfynn [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:53 pm ] |
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I watched the first Grimm, which I thought was pretty good. I'll continue to watch it for now, though I hate that it's on at the same time as Fringe. Many times we don't actually watch Fringe as it airs, so it gets DVR'd. And our DVR can't record two shows at once. Anyhow... I listened to Once Upon A Time (was helping my wife do some baking and the TV doesn't face the kitchen). From what I heard, I thought it was way too cheeezzy. Yes, cheeezzy with three e's and two z's. And not the good kind that can be fun, but the groan-inducing kind. Will not watch. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:54 pm ] |
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I'm still watching both. Anybody who's watched Once Upon a Time so far pleased to see Carth Onassi/Kaidan Alenko in person for a change? Such a distinctive voice... |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:14 pm ] |
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I've only seen Grimm, but it's been fun to watch so far. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:03 pm ] |
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I'm really trying to like Grimm. Really I am, but it is missing a mark with me for some reason. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:18 pm ] |
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Grimm's been fun. OUaT is not holding my interest. Too campy, too cheesy, not in good ways. The third episode was...better (Snow White's much more interesting as a roguish cutpurse than a dowdy schoolmarm), but still not good. It finally struck me that they're structuring it a la Lost: one story going on and then the bulk of the time is filled up with flashbacks of "how did we get to this point." I don't care for that as a structural mechanism. It annoyed me with Lost and it annoys me here as well. |
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| Author: | Talya [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:42 pm ] |
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FarSky wrote: Grimm's been fun. OUaT is not holding my interest. Too campy, too cheesy, not in good ways. The third episode was...better (Snow White's much more interesting as a roguish cutpurse than a dowdy schoolmarm), but still not good. It finally struck me that they're structuring it a la Lost: one story going on and then the bulk of the time is filled up with flashbacks of "how did we get to this point." I don't care for that as a structural mechanism. It annoyed me with Lost and it annoys me here as well. I hated Lost, but not for that reason, per se. The main reason I don't like the flashback structure has nothing to do with personal taste and more to do with having my 6 year old daughter understand what's going on. (I think she's starting to get it.) I was a bit confused at first how OUaT was using all the Disney names not from the original fairy tales (eg. Jiminy Cricket, Maleficent, Bashful, Doc, Dopey, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy & Sneezy) - until it occurred to me that Disney owns ABC, so they probably gave permission without any hassle. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:47 pm ] |
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Yeah, they (the producers) said that they spoke with Disney and got the (protective) go-ahead. So I would say it's a fair bet you won't see anything too terribly adult going on in Storybrooke. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:21 pm ] |
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Okay, so I've watched the first two episodes. Is that a Cat Stevens song they're using for the intro to the second episode (and presumably as the opening theme to the show)? |
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| Author: | Kirra [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:23 am ] |
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I just discovered On Demand. Watched all the episodes of Grimm. I really liked it! Well made, hope it has more episodes to come! |
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| Author: | Raell [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:38 pm ] |
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Both shows have some horrible FX going on. Other than that...I am easy and enjoy both. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:25 pm ] |
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Both are fun entertaining rides that don't seem to be in a hurry to go anywhere. Both are finally trying to take it up a bit. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:25 pm ] |
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Those are TV shows? I may start watching again someday. Last time I checked the writing on pretty much everything sucked. |
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