The Glade 4.0

Steam has the Underfoot pack for $14.99 for the next month, as well as a package of extras along with it.

I'd decided to hold off on getting it until HoT came out, and buying them both...

But this is too good of a deal to pass up, I think.

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Hard to justify, considering EQ2 just announced it's going Free-to-Play.

Meh, I wasn't too thrilled with the FtP stats on EQ2, especially considering it's only certain, new, servers.

The free play is pretty limiting in what you can get- 10 levels below max, max of 2 characters, limited in the quality of gear/spells you can use, etc.

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I just re-read the FAQ:

Along with the Free-to-Play status, you can also buy some of the best armor and weapons via station cash on these new EQ2 Extended servers.

Wow, they're also severely limiting the amount of coin you can keep, restricting use of the brokers, and limiting the races/classes you can play.

Heh, and only 2 bag slots on Free to Play? That's gonna hurt.

No customer service, either.

And you can't use the in-game mail system, or any chat channels.

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For my wife and I, who will only ever play on a casual basis, I think that's more than sufficient.

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The Dude abides.

Meh. I don't find $15 a month that much to spend for entertainment.

That said, I'm not exactly sure what EQ2 being free to play has to do with an EQ1 expansion pack on sale for 70% off not being worth it.

I think by this time people are either playing EQ1, EQ2, or both because they like the games, not because one is cheaper to play than the other.

Maybe I'm wrong though.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

I'm not playing either game and I'm too much of a cheap-ass to pay for either for the little amount of time I'd probably play it.

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The Dude abides.

Balls. I just bought UF over the 4th of July Weekend. Of course, it was double station cash weekend, so I only spent $20 on it. But I could have saved $5 on it!!!

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More than that- you get 500 SC with the purchase

So really, it's only like $10

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

I got the 500 station cash when I purchased it, so I didn't miss out on that.

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I still think that anyone who still plays EQ1 or 2 should check out the incredible sexiness of Shards of Dalaya. Easliy the best MMORPG I've ever played.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

I have some RL friends that used to play EQ (they got me into the game actually) that play Shards of Dalaya and rave about it, but I still have too much fun in EQ1 to try it.

What Ladas said.

I've looked into it, and it just doesn't interest me all that much when EQ1 still has so much to do and explore.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

Do you recommend EQ for a former WoW player?

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Memento Vivere

I have local knowledge.
That sandbar was not there yesterday!

The 3rd-person camera (unless it's been changed in the last couple of years) will be a very, very large annoyance for you. That said, if you can get used to it, you may like EQ. WoW is the only MMO I had ever been able to sink a large amount of time into, after finally deciding to stop playing EQ. Others just didn't match up for me. EQ2 included.

Verdict: it's worth the small monetary investment to see if you dig it. It's also very easy for new people to play now, with the inclusion of Defiant armor sets and mercenary NPC's.

Neph:
Sorry for shitting on your thread. It was more of a thinking-out-loud post.

I have never played WoW, so I can not give a good comparison of whether you would like it or not without knowing what about WoW you liked or disliked to see how EQ handles those same issues.

I can say though that for a new player in EQ, it will probably feel pretty daunting, as the vast majority of the people in game are concentrated at the end levels, so while there is a ton of content, most of it you would be exploring solo (or with your merc).

The main difference I liked about EQ over WoW was the overall playstyle.

Mobs in WoW often died in a very, very, short time.

Mobs in EQ are more endurance fights.

I also find a lot more pleasure in just messing around in EQ than I did in WoW.

If you want to give it a try, you're welcome to start up on FV with me. It's a great server for casual players, nearly all gear is droppable.

I'll hook you up

$14.99 for the game including the most recent expansion isn't much to spend- and it covers the 1st month's subscription fees as well.

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I may give this a shot, although I don't know where I'll get time between EQ2, WoW, and the occasional foray into Vanguard. I'd also like to try EVE online but I can't find a copy.

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The best thing about EQ is the advancement of your character can be done outside of raiding. In WoW, once you max level, all you really have left is PvP and raiding to advance your character. In EQ, you can still advance by raiding, but you can also advance through AA points. So all of that exp you don't get in WoW after you hit 80 doesn't do jack ****. But in Everquest, you gain ability points to spend on various aspects of your character. It's totally awesome. I think they have those in EQ2, but EQ2 is a really horrible game.

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They do have them in EQ2, which is an excellent game.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I played a little bit of EQ2... very little bit when it came out. I think I had a wood elf scout in the upper teens and a ratonga knight that I changed alliance in the same range.

The thing I liked most about it compared to EQ1, aside from the updated graphics, was the crafting system.

Outside of that, it just didn't have the draw for me.

DE, Ladas, and NephyrS:

Immagine what EQ might have become had SONY never taken over the project, and Brad McQuaid had never become a strung out junkie. MUDflation is nearly non-existant, the game is entirely skill dependant, the content is static, GM and DEV involvement is unparrellelled to the point of being epic, questing matters and is exciting, encounter scripts can be mind-blowing, the list goes on and on. I'll never play another game again.

EDIT: Did I mention it's 100% free to play?

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

This is what most people say. And EQ2 now is nothing like it was.

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The Dude abides.

The F2P announcement got some folks in the worldwide Ranger channel in EQ2 all riled up the other night.

Mainly, the whole "you can buy raid-level gear via the store" aspect that is supposedly going in has ruffled some feathers.

As long as it is restricted to the F2P server(s), with naked server transferring only, I don't see a problem. As already pointed out, there are several other limiters that still make paid subscriptions far superior.

As for EQ2 itself -- I'd say it's taken many strides forward since the early days, and maybe a couple steps back in some respects (class balance is a big issue right now, but that's generally how it is after every new expansion, until they get things sorted out).

Is this Shards of Dayala, or Project 1999?