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Author: | Rodahn [ Fri May 14, 2010 8:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Games Are Too Big And Too Hard |
Suggestive title aside, an interesting read: Link Here For those that cannot access the link, here is the article: Spoiler: Now, all this said, he must really be talking about PC games, because his claims are not what I have observed of modern console games at all. |
Author: | Raltar [ Fri May 14, 2010 8:30 pm ] |
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Games in general(that aren't MMOs) are getting shorter and shorter with less and less to do. Not all games, mind you, but the vast majority are. Even RPGs, that used to be those huge games that took 50+ hours to beat back in the 90s and early 2000s have been getting shorter and shorter. At the same time, I can understand why games get shorter. They haven't gone up in price since the start of the current generation and they are getting more and more expensive to make. The main problem is people keep wanting better graphics. Sadly, the majority wants better graphics and they fail to see how this is actually harming the industry in the long term. The more they spend on making the game look super awesome, the less they have to spend on actually making the game good. |
Author: | Rodahn [ Fri May 14, 2010 8:40 pm ] |
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Yeah, this ^^^ That guy must have been stuck in a time bubble or something. |
Author: | Numbuk [ Sat May 15, 2010 6:54 pm ] |
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Yeah, I've felt the same way. If a game costs me 50 bucks and only 10 hours or less to complete, unless it's something extremely amazing, I feel ripped off. But that isn't my biggest beef with games today. My biggest beef is what his other argument suggests against: Games being too hard. What.... the .... ****... ever! Every damn game in the past 10 years goes out of it's WAY to either hold your hand or make sure you're on a railroad track steered in the right direction. Did this guy EVER play the original Metroid (hell, Super Metroid)? He would have an aneurysm! Every game has some sort of obvious compass marker, flashing flag, or little fairy to tell you EXACTLY where the hell to go, and then what to do once you get there. This man has absolutely no leg to stand on here. The saddest part is, if a game was actually released that didn't hold the player's hand like they were a frightened 5 year-old girl, most gamers today would ***** and moan about it. It's like gamers feel afraid and intimidated to actually explore a game these days. Maybe he's talking about game difficulty in terms of fights and boss battles. Yet again, something that 98% of all games in the past 10 years have forgone. Most games practically let you auto-pilot your way through the entire game. I am trying really damn hard to think of a game where I felt I was really challenged that was not 8-bit or 16-bit. The only one I can think of is Crysis on the harder skill levels. Ninja Gaiden 2, **maybe** (but not nearly as much as Crysis). |
Author: | Roophus Gunthar [ Sat May 15, 2010 8:15 pm ] |
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I believe the problem is the exact opposite of what John Davison suggests. I'm with Numbuk. |
Author: | Uinan [ Sat May 15, 2010 8:21 pm ] |
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Maybe they've been playing Demon Souls? |
Author: | Screeling [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:39 am ] |
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Off Topic: Hey Uinan, weren't you using those thumbstick extensions for your 360 controller for Call of Duty? You still use those things? |
Author: | Uinan [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:24 am ] |
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Sure do. Absolutely love them. Took about 3 hours of playing to get used to the height difference, but ever since then, been smooth sailing. |
Author: | Screeling [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:10 am ] |
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Were they the kontrolfreek ones? I'd like to pick up a set. |
Author: | Uinan [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:24 am ] |
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Yeah, those are the ones. |
Author: | Dash [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:53 pm ] |
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Everyone was in love with Portal because you could actually finish it and it was satisfying. Definitely something to be said for short, fun games. |
Author: | Hopwin [ Mon May 17, 2010 2:44 pm ] |
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I'd love to see this whiner play Might & Magic 7. |
Author: | Elessar [ Tue May 18, 2010 8:16 am ] |
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I remember the original Final Fantasy for NES being a ***** to complete. In fact I might have never finished it now that I think of it. |
Author: | Screeling [ Tue May 18, 2010 9:39 am ] |
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I only finished FF1 because I had a walk-through. That game was seriously freakin hard and required HOURS of grinding to stay ahead of the curve. |
Author: | Rorinthas [ Tue May 18, 2010 5:27 pm ] |
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I find myself not finishing a lot of my games these days. I don't think that the games fault as much as it is my life and schedule. |
Author: | Shelgeyr [ Tue May 18, 2010 10:47 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: I'd love to see this whiner play Might & Magic 7. /twitchOr how about the original Bard's Tale? Or hell, how about Nethack? |
Author: | Elessar [ Wed May 19, 2010 7:08 am ] |
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Screeling wrote: I only finished FF1 because I had a walk-through. That game was seriously freakin hard and required HOURS of grinding to stay ahead of the curve. Totally. I have memories as a kid of just walking around in a circle (well I guess square) fighting monsters for experience to beat that dungeon with the witch or something in it. |
Author: | Wwen [ Fri May 21, 2010 1:22 am ] |
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THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! I can't believe no one else went for it. Games have been getting shorter and easier for some time now. I don't know what someone is smoking. |
Author: | Rafael [ Fri May 21, 2010 10:01 pm ] |
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Games of olden days somehow did their job better with worse technology. I just replayed the original Alone in the Dark, and while I'm sure nostalgia contributed a lot of it, the game is still just damn creepy. |
Author: | Roophus Gunthar [ Sun May 23, 2010 1:20 am ] |
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This generation of gaming has really disappointed me overall. Even going back to the PS2/Xbox generation, we had a lot higher quality of gameplay, in my opinion. Look at the sports games. We've almost went in a complete opposite direction. Gameplay was so much better with the old technology. |
Author: | Rodahn [ Sun May 23, 2010 8:40 am ] |
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Roophus Gunthar wrote: This generation of gaming has really disappointed me overall. Even going back to the PS2/Xbox generation, we had a lot higher quality of gameplay, in my opinion. Look at the sports games. We've almost went in a complete opposite direction. Gameplay was so much better with the old technology. To a degree, I agree. The focus on modern gaming has become so tech-focused, that actual game play has (in general) been pushed to the wayside. That said, there have been some pretty amazing graphical feats produced this gen. And when you get that rare gem that combines those amazing graphics with actual solid game play, the combination equals a damn good experience. |
Author: | Wwen [ Sun May 23, 2010 5:47 pm ] |
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Something I have realized over time is that I have a nostalgic view of past games and complexity doesn't always equal quality. |
Author: | Darkroland [ Sun May 23, 2010 7:50 pm ] |
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Wwen wrote: Something I have realized over time is that I have a nostalgic view of past games and complexity doesn't always equal quality. Nostalgia is strong. A lot of old games that we bashed our heads against for hundreds of ours would be just obliterated by the younger generation. Refinement is not necessarily worse. P.S. Wwen, I freaking love your new avatar. Good show! |
Author: | Hopwin [ Mon May 24, 2010 10:46 am ] |
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Rafael wrote: Games of olden days somehow did their job better with worse technology. I just replayed the original Alone in the Dark, and while I'm sure nostalgia contributed a lot of it, the game is still just damn creepy. Wow that brought back memories of the 13th Guest. |
Author: | Numbuk [ Mon May 24, 2010 8:11 pm ] |
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Hopwin wrote: Wow that brought back memories of the 13th Guest. Did you mean, The 7th Guest? Great game! And one that really pioneered the cd-rom movement and began the extinction of floppy drives forever! I still have it sitting on my shelf. |
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