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| Author: | Foamy [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |
I want to be excited for a new Zelda game, but it just doesn't feel the same anymore. I grew up a Nintendo fan through and through, but I have felt abandoned by them as they decided that the non-gamer would be their target market instead of trying to keep competitive against Sony and Microsoft. Part of me does want this game, but another perhaps larger part of me doesn't want to bother. It may be due to the fact that I know I don't have the time for another epic journey (likely) with Link through Hyrule or Skyloft or whereever. Or it may be because my Wii has been relegated to a collector of dust on my entertainment center. When in the mood for gaming, it is almost exclusively my Xbox360 that will get the call. I will try to get excited for this game, but I fear it's time has passed. I think I will pick it up anyway, but I can only hope it still carries the same mystique that I grew up with and became so fond of as a lifelong Nintendo fan. |
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:01 am ] |
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Given that the Wii2 is projected to have more graphics power than either Sony or Microsof'ts products I dont think its fair to say Nintendo has vacated the field. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:02 am ] |
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Means nothing if they can't attract third-party developers and offer them something (like, an audience). They haven't been able to do that since before the Gamecube. |
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:04 am ] |
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*nod* and given that XBox 720 is only 2 years away on the far end, I think Wii is still a generation behind. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:13 pm ] |
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I'm not sure that's an accurate statement considering how Sony and Microsoft have both been ripping off Nintendo's motion sensor control scheme. For the past twenty years, the biggest innovations in controllers and their feedback has come from Nintendo. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:11 pm ] |
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I refuse to buy another Nintendo system until they change their terrible outlook on multiplayer infrastructure. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |
Microsoft may not release another console. They can't saturate the second largest console market in the world and are losing ground to the PS3 in the United States. No matter how good a product Live happens to be, Microsoft might have a better time providing multiplayer infrastructure for everyone than continuing to produce hardware. Of course, I think that's a shame, since Sony releases universally bad platforms. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:20 pm ] |
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They're losing ground to the PS3 because everyone already has an Xbox 360. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:21 pm ] |
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Yeah, Microsoft is losing Japan. And Tycho had things to say on that very matter this morning... Tycho wrote: The story more or less from the beginning of the Xbox 360 has been about Japan. In an unguarded moment, you might hear a person from Microsoft (who should probably know better than to talk to me) wonder aloud whether it’s possible to succeed in this business without Japan. They are asking it in a way that implies they have already answered this question for themselves and, indeed, answered it in the affirmative.
I always thought they were being ridiculous; videogames come from Japan. I created the term Microsophistry specifically to corral these bits of nonsensical, philosophical fluff that could only be proved true in a universe where that corporation’s perverse gravity could warp the natural order. But I get it now, because it’s happening. It has to do with sequestering Japan as a market from Japan as a cultural force. Individual titles can have a non-zero effect on adoption, but the overall picture ain’t real hot. But the world is different place than it was with the first box: the global picture is such that a multiplatform release is a given now, even for weirdo crap like Catherine. If you’re releasing a game, and there’s no backroom shenanigans, and the company is not a wholly owned subsidiary, you’re releasing it on the boxes people own. The persistent rumor, the one that is to beautiful to live, describes a world where the next generation system is a collaborative effort between Sony and Microsoft, each playing to their own strengths. Having had experience with both, it’s rare that people express a preference for PSN as an end-user or for the Playstation 3 as a development environment. God of War and Uncharted are games you buy systems to play, though. And they need a united front to fight off retailers in an increasingly digital world. I don’t believe this would ever happen, for no other reason than because it makes sense and is a great idea. |
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| Author: | Raltar [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:22 pm ] |
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It would be nice to only have to worry about one console. But...things might stagnate if that happens. Maybe if Sony would release a dev kit that wasn't such a pain in the *** to use... Anyway, I can't help but think of the Microsoft-Sony and Sony-Microsoft...thingers that were talked about here a few weeks ago. I think they were domain names? Though, the Microsoft guy said not to read too much into it...but of course he would say that if they were planning a mega console for the next generation. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:56 pm ] |
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Seems more likely to partner for cellphones or now that they have jumped the shark an mp3 player, |
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| Author: | Raell [ Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:32 pm ] |
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Corolinth wrote: They're losing ground to the PS3 because everyone already has an Xbox 360. Which doesn't have a blu ray player. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:38 pm ] |
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Considering it's taken until end of the console generation to become the major selling point that causes Sony to not quite catch up to Microsoft, I can't say Microsoft got the **** end of that stick. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:34 pm ] |
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Raell wrote: Corolinth wrote: They're losing ground to the PS3 because everyone already has an Xbox 360. Which doesn't have a blu ray player. Big loss. I can't play movies that are $10 more expensive for a marginally improved experience. The Zelda games are fun, but I feel that Nintendo pioneers hardware more than software. Their IPs, while good products, are very much the same thing over and over. Zelda's gameplay or mechanics haven't really evolved at all since OoT. Same for Mario and everything else. If they released new ones as often as CoD games, I think more people would complain, but it's been about 6 years since Twilight Princess. 2003 was Windwaker, the boat thing was new and neat(and eventually kind of boring), but the core gameplay remained unchanged in any notable way. It's a little disapointing, I wish they would try something a little different. Handing Metroid to a 3rd party dev does not count. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:10 am ] |
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I thought Nintendo's game plan was to pimp my childhood back to me every 3-4 years on a new platform? |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:25 am ] |
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Some people would argue that the consistent feel is part of the draw. Zelda is about the puzzles not the controls. We get a couple of different items every game as well as new twists on the classics. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |
Rorinthas wrote: Some people would argue that the consistent feel is part of the draw. Zelda is about the puzzles not the controls. We get a couple of different items every game as well as new twists on the classics. I would argue nostalgia is the only draw that Nintendo relies on. The original Wiimote motion system blew (haven't tried the motion+) and they only had a handful of games that truly capitalized on the concept. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:49 am ] |
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It blew so badly that Sony and Microsoft rushed out to copy it. Seriously though, the wiimote is a non issue for me. I think they could have done more with it and with the console in general. However they did, as I pointed out with the above snark, once again change the conversation. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:04 am ] |
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No, Sony and Microsoft waited a few years and improved upon it. Nintendo was in such a rush to get it out there that they didn't take any time to consider developing for it. Their 3DS suffers the same drawback, it's a great idea on paper but poorly executed. Sony previewed 3D TV goggles recently but they won't get to market until they are practical (or in Sony's case until the market has jumped the shark). I'd imagine somewhere in the bowels of Redmond some MS team is playing with a similar set of goggles to replace the Xbox. This while Nintendo is slashing prices and trying to prop the failed endeavour with another Mario Kart release. edit: Oh and don't misunderstand me, I'm no Nintendo hater. Just disappointed with what they've been doing since the Super-NES. |
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| Author: | Foamy [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:37 pm ] |
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I'd have to say that I enjoy the exploring aspect of the Zelda games. So much so, I never realized the backlash against the sailing portion of Wind Waker. It really gave a feel of an unexplored, wild world. My only real complaint of it was the fact that some of the islands were so small and almost not even worth finding. The Zelda series may have not changed much at it's core, but it has always managed to draw me back in with the promise of a new world discover and explore. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:58 pm ] |
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I think that's what I like too, but I think they play it too safe all the time. I liked WW, but some people really hated the sailing (and cell shading). Sometimes it could get a bit dull when I just wanted to get somewhere. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:06 pm ] |
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Reserved my Collectors edition with special edition wiimote and 25th anniversary symphonic music CD. I'm such an easy mark. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:28 pm ] |
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Still boycotting Nintendo. They haven't created an IP worth a damn since the N64. |
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| Author: | Raltar [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:24 pm ] |
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What IP did they create during the N64 era? I only recall new entries in established IPs. And a lot of horrible games like Quest 64 and Superman 64. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:32 pm ] |
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Smash Bros? I know it's a conglomeration of their existing IP's, but still. |
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