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Author:  NephyrS [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:00 pm ]
Post subject:  What am I missing?

OK, so browsing some Cyber Monday sales today, I ran across the Precision T1700 on Dell's website:

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/preci ... orkstation

$499, Windows 10/i3-4160.

I've been following prices to build my own mini-tower for light gaming based on the i3, and I'm getting prices around $530, depending on HDD. PSU in the Dell is 380 gold, which is enough for what I need.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WhwFvK

Am I missing something in the Dell build?

I've got a 750ti and a good SSD that I can throw in whatever I build/buy.

Author:  Darkroland [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What am I missing?

That is a really expensive mainboard! 153 bucks, there are a lot of other options before you get to that price point. That is enthusiast/overclocking level.

As well, do you have a licensed version of Windows 7/8.1? Microsoft now allows you to put in a 7/8.1 key to activate win 10 (as of the newest service pack), so you don't need to spend 85 bucks on it.

I found a workable build (with your GPU/SSD) as low as this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gy34cf

Now that's a micro ATX board, but it should work for what you're doing.

If you can spend around 500, I would recommend something more like this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2TQNdC

$454, gets you up to a full sized ATX mainboard, a mid-tower ATX case (will be MUCH less cramped than a micro-atx and easier to work in), an i5 instead of i3, 16GB of RAM instead of 4, plus the case is really pretty. Also has a 1TB drive, Dell has a 500GB. I left out an optical drive (in fact, the case doesn't even have a bay for one), as most people don't even use them anymore with USB keys so plentiful. So that's a LOT more power than the dell that's offered for 499. Really depends on what you have and what you need.

Author:  NephyrS [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What am I missing?

I do not have a copy of 7- that's part of the expense, sadly.

Thanks for the build advice!

Makes a lot of sense, I wasn't sure why my board was consistently so expensive.

I pretty much only play WoW, and my current PC is OK, but the 4gb ram limitation and the C2Duo processor are slowing it up consistently.

So for me, a high clock dual core + ram is what I mainly need.

Author:  NephyrS [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:45 pm ]
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Hmm, looks like your first list wasn't adding a price for the board at all, makes sense why it was so low.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fLfjdC with a cheap board in it + win10 gets me about $100 cheaper than the Dell. Thanks!

I really like http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U86 ... _i=desktop for a case- I think I saw someone here recommend it.

Author:  NephyrS [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:59 pm ]
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gPc7Q7 looks to be about as cheap as I can reasonably get it with that case + OS. So just under $400.

That said, PCPartPicker gives me an error that my H81 board might not work with the Haswell Refresh CPU- seen that work/not work before?

Author:  Darkroland [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:50 pm ]
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That's weird, I still see a price when I click that first list.

NephyrS wrote:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gPc7Q7 looks to be about as cheap as I can reasonably get it with that case + OS. So just under $400.

That said, PCPartPicker gives me an error that my H81 board might not work with the Haswell Refresh CPU- seen that work/not work before?


I haven't, but I don't believe you'd be able to flash the bios without a chip that worked in the board, so that wouldn't work. Might want to upgrade to this mainboard:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gZTR7P

Personally, I've had better luck with ASRock than I have with MSI as well.

Author:  Müs [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:46 pm ]
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Why i3?

Author:  NephyrS [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:49 pm ]
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Less expensive for high clock speed, and no real need for multi-threaded use.

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