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Market value of Apple versus Microsoft over the last decade
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Author:  zxczxcf [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Market value of Apple versus Microsoft over the last decade
This displays a graph with numbers. I came up with this myself... nothing taken from Reddit. :P.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ma ... t+10+years

It's pretty interesting how gigantic Apple has become. Microsoft is definitely the underdog now.
Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:14 pm ]
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Underdog.. at what? The mp3 player and phone hardware markets?
Author:  zxczxcf [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:15 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Underdog.. at what? The mp3 player and phone hardware markets?


They both make hardware and software now with many different products in overlapping categories.
Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:08 am ]
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The only overlapping hardware markets I know of are the Zune/iPod. Microsoft doesn't make any phones, just a phone OS, so it's not a direct competition.

Microsoft also doesn't make any laptops, or desktops. I don't think Apple is a serious competitor with Microsoft in the peripheral industry, and Microsoft still maintains a very healthy lead in OS marketshare on non-mobile platforms.
Author:  zxczxcf [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:34 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
The only overlapping hardware markets I know of are the Zune/iPod. Microsoft doesn't make any phones, just a phone OS, so it's not a direct competition.

Microsoft also doesn't make any laptops, or desktops. I don't think Apple is a serious competitor with Microsoft in the peripheral industry, and Microsoft still maintains a very healthy lead in OS marketshare on non-mobile platforms.


They clearly compete in many different areas.

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Author:  TheRiov [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:20 am ]
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didn't apple lauch a social networking part of iTunes? Dont recall what its called. IIRC it bombed miserably.
Author:  FarSky [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:44 am ]
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Ping, and yeah.
Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:49 pm ]
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There's other things listed there that one can hardly say Apple is "competing" with Microsoft on. Apples office suite? Yeah, whatever. I have to wonder what they're qualifying as "business software," too. I imagine that, for Microsoft, this incorporates their Back Office suite. Not sure what Apple has that would qualify.
Author:  zxczxcf [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:58 pm ]
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There's millions of tech articles comparing Apple and Microsoft as competitors. I doubt all their assessments are all off.
Author:  Kaffis Mark V [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:15 pm ]
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They are competitors. But their competition plays no part in Apple's increase in value. Apple's increase in value has been in markets that Microsoft doesn't really compete in (laptop hardware, phone hardware, phone OS (Windows Mobile has never been a strong presence, IMO, only comparing favorably to real dogs like PalmOS), networking hardware) and markets Microsoft has reluctantly limped into after Apple broke them open, and then promptly stopped supporting/caring about (Zune, anybody?), but they've made few marketshare gains in the markets Microsoft does compete in.

It'll be interesting to see how Apple fares with Jobs stepping down.
Author:  zxczxcf [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:19 pm ]
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
They are competitors. But their competition plays no part in Apple's increase in value. Apple's increase in value has been in markets that Microsoft doesn't really compete in, and they've made few marketshare gains in the markets Microsoft does compete in.

It'll be interesting to see how Apple fares with Jobs stepping down.


I disagree. Microsoft's failures in the mobile market have allowed for Apple to grow so much.
Author:  Talya [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:27 am ]
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Smart phones don't drive the real tech market and they won't until they can do EVERYTHING a PC can do--which also means you can plug in a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and play the best computer games on them at the highest possible graphics settings at 60+ frames per second. Or how about running bittorrent 24/7 without paying ridiculous charges and storing several terabytes of media in the device? Until they have all the features of the best desktop PCs, they're just gimmicky gadgets designed to hold one over when they are stuck away from home, until they can get to a real computer. PCs direct the direction of computing tech. And PCs mostly run Windows.

Now, Apple's real concern isn't Microsoft--not yet, anyway (the Win7 mobile phones are supposed to be spectacular, but they'll take a while to catch on). Their biggest threat in the consumer mobile field --Apple's only real strength-- is Google. Of course, neither of them have caught up to that monolithic corporate giant known as Research in Motion when it comes to the total mobile market (Corporate is everything there, consumer level is just for show), which is bizarre, since near as I can tell, just about everything Blackberry sucks.
Author:  zxczxcf [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:36 am ]
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Smart phone sales are expected to eclipse computer sales within a few years. Apple has a huge lead over Microsoft. Apple's tablets are also much more popular than anything Microsoft has put out.

Microsoft's phones default the search engine to Bing and you can't fix it (link). I don't know if you've used Bing but it's pretty terrible compared to Google. It's an ok phone if you don't care about using the Internet. Also it seems the interface is really babified, the features are worse in general, and there's much less apps. It's supposedly more difficult for developers to create apps for Windows Phone 7 and get them approved. I can't see an informed consumer ever buying a Windows Phone 7 over an Android.
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