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Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
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Author:  Sasandra [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
...on a driver larger than 32GB

does anyone know how to do it? I tried the dos method but after an hour of supposedly formatting and getting to 100% it told me the volume was too big for FAT32 :/
Author:  Mookhow [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
The 32 gigabyte limit seems to be an arbitrary restriction placed on Microsoft's disk utilities, to encourage you to use NTFS insead. The workarounds I've seen have been 1) use a Win98 or WinME boot disk, which doesn't have the arbitrary restriction, or 2) use a third party disk utility. This forum post recommends a utility called fat32format: http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content ... 06/#564584
Author:  Lex Luthor [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:33 am ]
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Why not use NTFS?

Wikipedia wrote:
For most purposes, the NTFS file system is superior to FAT in terms of features and reliability; its main drawbacks are the size overhead for small volumes and the very limited support by anything other than the NT-based versions of Windows, since the exact specification is a trade secret of Microsoft. The availability of NTFS-3G since mid 2006 has led to much improved NTFS support in Unix-like operating systems, considerably alleviating this concern.




edit: What Mookhow said
Author:  Sasandra [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re:
Mookhow wrote:
The 32 gigabyte limit seems to be an arbitrary restriction placed on Microsoft's disk utilities, to encourage you to use NTFS insead. The workarounds I've seen have been 1) use a Win98 or WinME boot disk, which doesn't have the arbitrary restriction, or 2) use a third party disk utility. This forum post recommends a utility called fat32format: http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content ... 06/#564584


Thanks, that works perfectly :)

Lex Luthor wrote:
Why not use NTFS?


Because many devices that implement External USB storage don't support NTFS, only FAT16/32, including the device I need to use the drive on.
Author:  Taskiss [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:21 pm ]
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I had problems with large drives formatting for FAT32 after attaching them to Win7. Somehow, they were converted to what my Mac thought was ntfs. I'm not sure what happened, and it was a long time after whatever happened that I found I had a problem, so I couldn't do much investigation.

Just FYI
Author:  Sasandra [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:
Taskiss wrote:
I had problems with large drives formatting for FAT32 after attaching them to Win7. Somehow, they were converted to what my Mac thought was ntfs. I'm not sure what happened, and it was a long time after whatever happened that I found I had a problem, so I couldn't do much investigation.

Just FYI


Weird. Well so far no problem for me, I formatted the drive to FAT32 on a Windows 7 machine and then transferred all my MP3's onto the drive and plugged it into the USB port on my car stereo and it worked fine this time, so hopefully I won't get that issue, though using the drive is only temporary anyways until I get my tablet mounted in the car.
Author:  Lenas [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
You need 32gb of music in your car as a temporary solution? Sheesh. I'm happy with a few podcasts and maybe 5 hours worth of music.
Author:  Sasandra [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
Lenas wrote:
You need 32gb of music in your car as a temporary solution? Sheesh. I'm happy with a few podcasts and maybe 5 hours worth of music.


No, only 22.4gb of music :p

The drive size Which is a 64gb SSD is only because that's the drive that was in my windows computer that used to control all my music, so atm that's what I have available to store the music on, and since it can hold my entire library there's no reason to not have it all on the drive, then I can listen to whatever I want from my collection whenever I want ;) Just annoyingly I wasn't able to simply plug the drive in as is and use it because it was formatted as NTFS and additionally may have be an issue because it was a system drive since that was the drive windows XP was install on on that computer.
Author:  Khross [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
What a waste of an SSD.
Author:  Sasandra [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
Khross wrote:
What a waste of an SSD.


Well an SSD is somewhat of a necessity due to the environment, the computer originally has a standard HDD, however the fluid bearings would freeze in single digit temps and the constant vibration and shock on the drive would eventually cause drive corruption and require a re-install every 1-2 year, the only other option at the time was a military grade HDD which was more expensive than the SSD.

Plus we're not talking a modern 500+mb/s read/write speed drive, it's like 2-3 years old and is marginally faster than a modern traditional HDD at best, I think it's rated for 160mb/s sequential read, still once the tablet is install I'll likely be using it to replace the OS drive in my desktop which is an old 74gb WD raptor drive which only has sequential read speeds around 65mb/s.
Author:  Khross [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
Still wasting an SSD.
Author:  Lenas [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
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Author:  Sasandra [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
Lenas wrote:
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Except that cost money, the SSD I already had sitting around currently unused :p
Author:  Lenas [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
But it's... like... $35! That SSD was probably like $200 when you got it :P
Author:  Sasandra [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formating FAT32 with Windows 7
Lenas wrote:
But it's... like... $35! That SSD was probably like $200 when you got it :P


Actually it was only like $150 :p

But still, that's $35 more than what I have to spend using that SSD for something I only need for a couple weeks and would then have zero use for, and fortunately using the SSD I have was very viable as it has both SATA and USB built into the drive itself. And who knows what the real usable lifespan is left on the SSD anyways since it is an older one with less writes before failure and it was the OS drive on an XP build which isn't SSD friendly in itself. Also like most old SSD's it's prone to micro stutters, I actually had to create a batch file for running the music playing software I use to run the program at above normal priority because without that when I was also running GPS nav the music would occasionally stutter which didn't happen with the old 5400rpm 2.5" drive that was in the computer prior to the SSD.
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