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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:51 pm ] |
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/New- ... NFL-030212 |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:35 pm ] |
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Every person involved including coaches, management, and players should be permanently banned from the NFL. |
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| Author: | Uncle Fester [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:43 pm ] |
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Given Goodall's theme about player safety, I think the Saints are going to get hit harder then NE for recording. |
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| Author: | Raell [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:34 pm ] |
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They better. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:06 pm ] |
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Again, permanent bans. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:55 am ] |
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I guess the Redskins have been dragged into it too. It will be interesting to see what effect this has on the draft. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:15 am ] |
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Rynar wrote: Every person involved including coaches, management, and players should be permanently banned from the NFL. So they'll be eligible to play again in 2 years?
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| Author: | Vladimirr [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:53 pm ] |
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How long has this been going on, and how come we didn't know about it?? Saints players were paid a bonus to knock Favre out of the NFC championship against the Vikings? I'd have thrown some cash in that pool. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:04 pm ] |
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Vladimirr wrote: How long has this been going on, and how come we didn't know about it?? Saints players were paid a bonus to knock Favre out of the NFC championship against the Vikings? I'd have thrown some cash in that pool. It's been going on since Williams was a coach in Buffalo at least. |
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| Author: | NephyrS [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:29 pm ] |
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A friend and I were talking about this today, and what we came down to is that it all depends how "clean" the hits are. If you're giving bonuses for clean hits (not specifically for bad hits or injuries), then you're giving bonuses for good playing. If you're incentivising bad hits, then there's a problem. And that a lot of this could be solved by cracking down with harder penalties on "bad" hits. If you see, for instance, the quote from the Cardinal's QB in the article, he says that the hit on him was clean and fair. Some of the hits on Favre definitely weren't, imo. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:48 pm ] |
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I don't think 'clean' or 'not clean' are nearly as important as the perception that it gives (from the leagues perspective). There is no way the league is going to not take a hard stance on this. |
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| Author: | NephyrS [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:38 pm ] |
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But do you honestly think there are any teams that aren't doing this in some way? Heck, most of the highschool/college teams I know had some variant of this that they used as incentive. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:38 pm ] |
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Nephyrs wrote: But do you honestly think there are any teams that aren't doing this in some way? Heck, most of the highschool/college teams I know had some variant of this that they used as incentive. Nope, I don't think that at all. In fact I think it this kind of thing probably happens all the time, amongst players privately, and probably will continue. I even heard some high school coaches interviewed on the radio today saying that it happens on their teams....The problem is when it happens with full knowledge of the coaching staff or other team officials. The league can no longer look the other way. With all of the emphasis on player safety, and the NFL being sued by former players and their estates (see Dave Duerson), there is no way they are not going to nuke this thing from orbit, to alleviate any perception, that as a league, it's not a 'big deal'. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:38 pm ] |
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There's also the whole fact the League wants to protect its legal monopoly status. |
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| Author: | Raltar [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:39 pm ] |
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Eh...they should incorporate it into the sport. Might make football worth watching. Kinda like the only reason to watch nascar is the crashes. |
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| Author: | Aethien [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:03 pm ] |
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Blend it with MMA. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:07 pm ] |
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Just used convicted child molesters and play Huttball then ... |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:15 pm ] |
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Or Bloodbowl, complete with pointy ears or green face paint. |
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| Author: | Raell [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:24 pm ] |
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Gotta keep tabs on the loot... These 'bounty's' should count against a teams salary cap. I expect some huge fines and more than a few people to get fired. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:20 am ] |
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For the third time, lifetime bans. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:43 am ] |
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This has been going on for bloody ever in organized football. The Raiders were doing it in the 70s. Don't think it was the Raiders, but one game Joe Montana had his hand grabbed and broken after the play was dead, reportedly, the thug got a big bonus for it. Somewhere, some team is going to be doing it. That said, I agree with Rynar. |
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| Author: | Khross [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:18 am ] |
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Michael Vick is playing football. That's really all you need to know about what the League is going to do here ... |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:49 am ] |
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Khross wrote: Michael Vick is playing football. That's really all you need to know about what the League is going to do here ... The League is going to compare apples to orang... err... doorknobs? |
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| Author: | Khross [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:16 pm ] |
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Rynar wrote: Khross wrote: Michael Vick is playing football. That's really all you need to know about what the League is going to do here ... The League is going to compare apples to orang... err... doorknobs?Vick is playing football despite having a Federal rap-sheet that'd make Tony Soprano proud. By the by, he paid his fines with money he embezzled from the cats he snitched on ... You want people banned for life for the "bounty incident" ... I can live with that. I might even agree. People, however, are issuing conjecture on how the League is going to handle the "bounty incident" ... and Michael Vick tells you all you need to know there: as soon as the bad press is over, they'll be back in the game with no memory of what they did that was so offensive left in the fan consciousness. |
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| Author: | Rynar [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:02 pm ] |
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Off the field incidents vs. On the field incidents. One directly impacts player health and the careers of countless employees of the NFL, the other was a single mega-star QB who engaged in blatantly criminal activity and served a criminal penalty, but had no impact at all on the game or its other players. This combined with the NFL's recent rush to structure it's rules to prioritize injury prevention leads me to believe the penalties will be harsh. |
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