Midgen, I'm sorry, this is not simultaneous possession.
Spoiler:
Not to mention the blatantly disgusting PI that came before it.
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| Author: | Aethien [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:46 pm ] |
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Not to tweak you or nothin', Mus, but I want it on record here: Pack is gonna crush the Seahawks tonight, and Rodgers in particular will be outstanding. Why do I say this? In the pre-game, they showed him on the sideline holding a Gatorade cup up to his ear. People were laughing and smiling, he looks loose. I’m anticipating an epic night. Forgive me if I just jinxed him … (I do like Russell Wilson, too, hope he has a good night.) |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:56 pm ] |
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Wow, Seattle dumps Holmgren and 5 years later gets good. I hope Cleveland can replicate the results. |
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| Author: | Aegnor [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:06 pm ] |
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Holy crap that was insane. I don't think I have ever seen a single team get screwed by the refs so many times in a single quarter. Wow. This may be the game that ends the ref lockout. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This next Monday night game |
Mother of God. Worst call I've ever seen in football. Ever. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:19 pm ] |
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If you are referring to that last touchdown call, I'm going on record as saying the ref's got it right. There is no way you can call that an interception. Both players had the ball, and in those cases, it's always awarded to the offense. There is no such thing as one player having 'more' control of the ball. I also want to go on record as saying that that was probably the worse officiated games on BOTH sides, in the games history (certainly for any game I can recall). And lastly, Green Bay gave up 8 sacks in the first half. The very lastly GO SEAHAWKS !! |
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| Author: | Aethien [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This next Monday night game |
Lenas wrote: Mother of God. Worst call I've ever seen in football. Ever. Heh, and I'll bet you said that yesterday, too, right? The hits just keep on coming! I told my wife that I'm done with football for the season, and that if she catches me watching a game, she is well within her rights to turn off the TV. Just a ridiculous ending. Although I have to say, it's kind of funny to see Russell Wilson finally get a Hail Mary pass to work, given his history with Wisconsin last year. |
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| Author: | Aethien [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:22 pm ] |
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Midgen wrote: If you are referring to that last touchdown call, I'm going on record as saying the ref's got it right. There is no way you can call that an interception. Both players had the ball, and in those cases, it's always awarded to the offense. There is no such thing as one player having 'more' control of the ball. I also want to go on record as saying that that was probably the worse officiated games on BOTH sides, in the games history (certainly for any game I can recall). And lastly, Green Bay gave up 8 sacks in the first half. The very lastly GO SEAHAWKS !! OK, so what about the offensive pass interference that was just ignored on that play? And, the horrible roughing the passer call that allowed the drive to continue and negated the pick? |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:23 pm ] |
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Aethien wrote: OK, so what about the offensive pass interference that was just ignored on that play? And, the horrible roughing the passer call that allowed the drive to continue and negated the pick? And any other of the dozen or so bad calls that went either way for both teams throughout the entire game... |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:26 pm ] |
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I'll tell you guys right now, that there is no way you are going to get any sympathy from any Seahawks fan for bad officiating... Not after the debacle in Superbowl XLI. The refs involved came to Seattle during training camp the next season and 'informally' apologized to the team. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This next Monday night game |
Midgen, I'm sorry, this is not simultaneous possession. Spoiler: Not to mention the blatantly disgusting PI that came before it. |
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| Author: | Aethien [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:27 pm ] |
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Midgen wrote: Aethien wrote: OK, so what about the offensive pass interference that was just ignored on that play? And, the horrible roughing the passer call that allowed the drive to continue and negated the pick? And any other of the dozen or so bad calls that went either way for both teams throughout the entire game... I know, I know. The roughing the passer call was like the thing in baseball where the ump gives the other team a marginal call because he blew one earlier. Thing is, this just points up everything that I hate about football. Even when the refs are "good," the game is way too subjective. Where was his knee? Was he in the grasp? Was his arm going forward? Where's the ball spotted? Who the **** knows?! |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:27 pm ] |
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Tate has both hands on the ball at the same time... the rule does not allow for one player to have 'more' possession. |
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| Author: | Aethien [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:30 pm ] |
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Midgen wrote: Tate has both hands on the ball at the same time... the rule does not allow for one player to have 'more' possession. Um, no - whose hand is that with the yellow glove on, on the right? It's Tate's, and Jennings is on the ground already. Edit: Maybe that's not Tate's hand, now that I look at it. But it's still ridiculous. |
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| Author: | Müs [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:33 pm ] |
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Doesn't matter. Got the W. That said. Worst officiated game so far this year. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:33 pm ] |
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Quote: Rule 8 Section 1 Article 3 Item 5 of the NFL rule book states: Item 5: Simultaneous Catch. If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball. The only part of this that is debatable is the second statement, where it says "if one player gains control first...". This is a judgement call, made under duress, in a pile of bodies. IT IS NOT REVIEWABLE!! If the call had gone the other way, the Seahawks would have had just as much of a beef. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This next Monday night game |
The hands shouldn't even matter because of the **** pass interference right before Tate jumped. That **** was so blatant. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:36 pm ] |
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Here is the video... Watch it in real time http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0a ... line_stack (And yes, that should have been pass Interference) |
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| Author: | Müs [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This next Monday night game |
Lenas wrote: The hands shouldn't even matter because of the **** pass interference right before Tate jumped. That **** was so blatant. Yes. Yes it was. We can has real refs back nao? |
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| Author: | Aegnor [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:42 pm ] |
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Midgen, you're off the deep end here. Jennings CLEARLY had possession of the ball initially. It was definitely not simultaneous possession. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:44 pm ] |
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Here is a screencap of the first frame of the video on ESPN. Both players hands are on the ball as it arrives. Yes, Jennings pulls it to his body because he has better position, but again,the rule doesn't say anything about 'better' possession. Attachment:
File comment: SIMULTANEOUS!
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| Author: | Lenas [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This next Monday night game |
As you should well know, possession requires more than just hands on the ball. Jennings maintained it throughout the entirety while Tate did not and only had both hands on the ball for maybe less than a second while they were both still in the air. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:00 am ] |
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You can't know that. You can't see both players hands during the scrum. Here is a photo from the back showing Tate's hands INSIDE of Jennings. Attachment: tateshandsINSIDE.jpg [ 35.5 KiB | Viewed 5656 times ] |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:06 am ] |
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Ooops !! Attachment: oops.jpg [ 17.44 KiB | Viewed 5649 times ] |
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| Author: | Aegnor [ Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:07 am ] |
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Ugh...come on Midgen. I'm no Green Bay fan, but that was a terrible call. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This next Monday night game |
Whatever. It's still bullshit that Tate was even allowed to get to the ball. If he didn't push a player out of his way he never would have touched the damn thing. In the interview when he was asked about the push he just kept saying, "I don't know what you're talking about." What a lying sack of ****. At least own up to it and admit you got lucky, can't lose the game now. |
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