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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:44 pm 
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By that logic, everything in the company except for the sales team is a "cost center."


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_centre_(business)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profit_center

Basically. Yes.

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That is what sales and marketing want you to believe. It is not actually the case.

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Yeah, my wife tries to tell me how much she saves when she uses a coupon at Khol's.

You either bring cash in or not, and "saving" money isn't the same as making money, and you sure as hell don't save money by spending. It doesn't mean it's not important, but still, the very best you can accomplish is not spending as much.

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Xequecal wrote:
By that logic, everything in the company except for the sales team is a "cost center."


That would depend very much on the company and the industry.

For example, the Surgery department at a hospital is a revenue center. The coding department is a cost center. This is despite the fact that money wouldn't come in the door without the coding department.

All companies have units that actually make or deliver the product, and companies that support delivery. The latter are cost centers.

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IT isn't a cost center btw.


Sure it is. Does it generate revenue? No. So it's a cost center. There are only two types of units in the organizational breakdown I'm talking about: cost centers and revenue centers.


Do you buy software, use software?


Can you compete with others without technology?

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Elmo, IT/Support/HR/Customer service/etc all do not directly generate revenue in accounting terms no matter what you may think of their necessity.

Which is why they are often left sucking hind tit in terms of cutbacks or downsizing.

Which is also why IT people generally hate accounting people.

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Which is also why IT people generally hate accounting people.


Everyone hates accounting people. They're right in there with lawyers.

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Elmarnieh wrote:
DFK! wrote:
Elmarnieh wrote:
IT isn't a cost center btw.


Sure it is. Does it generate revenue? No. So it's a cost center. There are only two types of units in the organizational breakdown I'm talking about: cost centers and revenue centers.


Do you buy software, use software?


Can you compete with others without technology?


Doesn't really matter. You're trying to argue business definitions with me. I didn't invent them, I'm just using them properly.

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Müs wrote:
Elmo, IT/Support/HR/Customer service/etc all do not directly generate revenue in accounting terms no matter what you may think of their necessity.

Which is why they are often left sucking hind tit in terms of cutbacks or downsizing.

Which is also why IT people generally hate accounting people.


This isn't necessarily true.

Some of the best organized companies actually organize their accounting so that Information Technology bills the departments that use their services. IT management determines what the cost is for a particular product or service, and funds are transferred from one cost center to another internally. ("This business division has 2000 people with mailboxes, using 2 Terabytes of drive space. The monthly cost for this is...") This cost comes out of the budget for the departments using the service, and is used to create the budget for IT. IT can actually show a profit like this (although in reality, they are discouraged from doing so.)

The advantage of this accounting model is it actually shows where the inefficiencies are located in your company, rather than dumping everything on the service providers.

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