Screeling wrote:
Taskiss wrote:
Llamas don't like dramas.
This is frickin bullcrap. Of course they love drama. That's why we call them drama llamas. The fact that the words rhyme make it true.
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Just ask the right question |
A guy at work loves to play superhero, wants to be "the go-to guy" to everyone. He has great skills and if I have a problem he's the first guy I go to for bouncing ideas off. He and I are both contractors. I happen to like the guy. He's not really a team player, but divas aren't in short supply at the level I work at, so it's not a big deal. Problem is, he wants my job (lead for storage) so bad he can taste it. I'm not sure why, but he does...as I've recently found out. So, the functional manager retires and one of the employees we've both worked with for years gets slotted for the job. I get asked if I want to be systems lead in addition to storage, but I turn the job down. I'm really too busy at times to even think about being systems lead too. I suggest that the hero get the job, and they give it to him. (I'm not a hero. I come from the school that says the IT guy is doing his job if you DON'T hear about him. But, I digress. Back to the story...) Thing is, the systems lead also manages the job queue, and this guy has taken to assigning the storage jobs to himself. Things are slack at the moment because additional storage gets paid for and starts getting allocated after the first of the year, but some small jobs are getting queued up, and I noticed what he was doing. It isn't a big deal, it could be that he knew that I like to rewrite my tools during the yearly lull, but, well, it's not the first time this guys made a power play. So I go to the manager and ask if I'm still the storage lead. No biggie, it could be that with the management change I'm not. I'm pretty sure though that I'm safe... I have never made a mistake that prevented me from delivering on time and within budget, and I'm ultra meticulous. The hero... not so much. He just misses dotting an "i" or crossing a "t" occasionally, and he makes performance promises he can't keep... and that's one of my specialities, I always hit my target. So I figure I already know the answer, and sure enough, I'm still storage lead. So, no harm, no foul, right? Just a misunderstanding, and I ask the manager to touch base with the hero and it will all be fine. The new manager talks to the hero, tells him that all storage tickets get assigned to David, no biggie. Well, unfortunately, the hero wasn't misunderstood, he really does want to lead storage as well as systems. "No" says the manager. From that point on, it got ugly. Higher level management gets involved, drama ensues, feelings get hurt. Talk about getting rid of the hero is rumored to have been talked. I don't get involved with any of that, my contribution ended after I was told that I'm still lead. The hero comes to me, all butt hurt. "Why couldn't you have just come to me if you had a problem" he says. "First", I say, "I needed to know if there was a problem. Since I was told that I'm still lead for storage, I don't have a problem... but I'm not sure the same applies for you". The moral of the story is, the right question at the right time beats a full house...or something like that. All I know is, this drama crap makes me uncomfortable. Consultants shouldn't ever engage in politics. |
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| Author: | Xequecal [ Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
I'm thinking that it might not be so much about him wanting your job, but that he's pissed off that they offered to let you be both the systems and storage lead but they won't let him do both. |
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| Author: | DFK! [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Taskiss wrote: Consultants shouldn't ever engage in politics. Hmm... whereas I think in some ways that's actually all they do. |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:39 am ] |
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Don't know many political consultants huh? |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Latest update - the hero went 2 managers up the chain and threatened to quit if he doesn't get his way. The functional manager tells me to be prepared for more work. Llamas don't like dramas. I've left this company like 4 times now for various reasons... I wanted more pay, there were announcements of layoffs, stuff like that. I'm a consultant so they don't owe me ... but I don't owe them either. We've been able to work it out. This "I'm going to quit" crap...WTF? Has anyone on this planet EVER heard of that working out in the long run? |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Taskiss wrote: Latest update - the hero went 2 managers up the chain and threatened to quit if he doesn't get his way. The functional manager tells me to be prepared for more work. How subtle. Quote: Llamas don't like dramas. I've left this company like 4 times now for various reasons... I wanted more pay, there were announcements of layoffs, stuff like that. I'm a consultant so they don't owe me ... but I don't owe them either. We've been able to work it out. This "I'm going to quit" crap...WTF? Has anyone on this planet EVER heard of that working out in the long run? Rarely. |
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| Author: | Screeling [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Taskiss wrote: Llamas don't like dramas. This is frickin bullcrap. Of course they love drama. That's why we call them drama llamas. The fact that the words rhyme make it true. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Taskiss wrote: Has anyone on this planet EVER heard of that working out in the long run? Sadly, I have... For this one special little snowflake |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Screeling wrote: Taskiss wrote: Llamas don't like dramas. This is frickin bullcrap. Of course they love drama. That's why we call them drama llamas. The fact that the words rhyme make it true.
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| Author: | Micheal [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:51 pm ] |
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One of the best managers I have ever had was famous for accepting the threatened resignation on the spot and walking them to their desk to get their stuff. He only had to do it twice. Never happened again. There may be jobs where that works, but government doesn't tend to be one of them. One of them took him up on walking out and was never heard from again. The other begged forgiveness and left anyway for another job a couple months later. Neither of the players was missed. They were just nowhere near as indispensable as they thought they were. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:36 pm ] |
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I was once offered a 2 year stint in hell doing work that I loathe. I stated that I would happily accept the job without complaint, perform above expectations, and provide a minimum of two weeks notice if I found another position back doing the work that I am passionate about. It worked, and there hasn't been any <noticeable> fallout. They sent someone else, who burned out and quit, and then sent someone else, who burned out and quit. |
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| Author: | Stathol [ Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Taskiss wrote: Has anyone on this planet EVER heard of that working out in the long run? I've never even seen it work in the short run. The only time I've seen someone try that, they were fired on the spot on general principle. |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:15 am ] |
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I got a raise out of it once, but I didn't threaten, I quit because the boss was being entirely unreasonable. Expecting me to know the warehouse mangement system as good as the warehouse manager who was out and I was covering for them and shown basic function only. He apparently thought smart people could just know what arcane commands to type in to do stuff because well just because. VC-1518 and stuff like that. |
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| Author: | Xequecal [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Stathol wrote: Taskiss wrote: Has anyone on this planet EVER heard of that working out in the long run? I've never even seen it work in the short run. The only time I've seen someone try that, they were fired on the spot on general principle. I'm honestly not sure what the "correct" way is to try and finagle more money out of your current employer if they don't want to do it willingly. Everyone says that doing some interviews and getting an offer somewhere else for more money, then using that offer to negotiate with your current boss is also a terrible idea. |
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| Author: | shuyung [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:20 pm ] |
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The correct way is to leave for a higher-paying position elsewhere. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just ask the right question |
Xequecal wrote: Everyone says that doing some interviews and getting an offer somewhere else for more money, then using that offer to negotiate with your current boss is also a terrible idea. It can be, but it doesn't have to be a 'terrible' experience. In my line of work it happens all of the time with varying success. |
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| Author: | DFK! [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:33 pm ] |
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shuyung wrote: The correct way is to leave for a higher-paying position elsewhere. QFT. |
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| Author: | Screeling [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:45 am ] |
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Real gangsta *** niggas don't flex muscles, 'cause real gangsta *** niggas know they got 'em. |
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