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I always thought that was when some frail little pasty faced lady went crazy and had to be sent away or locked up in the loony bin.

I didn't realize that it could happen to anybody. I guess that what I am going through right now could best be described as a nervous breakdown, but it sounds so harsh. Maybe a mini-nervous breakdown?

I quit my job....my last day is Friday. Other than cooking, cleaning, and doing a few much needed home improvement projects, I don't have any plans. I'm hoping that a part time job and home-schooling my son is in the cards for this fall.

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Exercise, do something physical every day. Put a limit on your computer time and stick to it. Keep your diet as healthy as possible. Keep going to therapy. Pray. Do not let any one of these activities take over your life, do them all.

Love your husband and your children and your pets, each and every one, each and every day. Make sure you are doing what you need to do to keep them healthy and happy, and in doing so find your health and happiness.

Write. Write a journal, write more songs, more poetry, continue being the creative you, sing, play your guitar, dance.

Find a way, find something to laugh at, out loud, every day. The Good Lord has provided you with a wide world of opportunities to smile. Use them.

One day at a time, one step at a time. You don't have to be strong forever, just for today. Tell yourself that every morning and it will help you be strong each day.

Know you have friends here who will drop everything to answer your questions or tell you how much they like you.

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Thank you, that is excellent advice. I am currently doing my best at all of the above except for the exercising and the dancing...I'm not much of a dancer, and I am too exhausted right now to do much more than walk to and from the parking lot at work...I'm recovering from a few physical illnesses so maybe I'll be back on track in that area within a couple of weeks.

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LadyKate wrote:
Any suggestions?

My suggestion may not align with your plans, but I'm thinking you need to keep as busy as possible. Work can be a blessing that way when dealing with a loss.

I was married to a woman going through bouts of depression and it seemed that if she had time to retreat into herself the situation got worse, and when she got a job things got better.

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Kate :)

Anytime you need anything..let me know ) I had a really crappy night at work, but I'm smiling now from reading your posts. Keep busy doing all the things you put off because you were working. There is light at the end and you have an unique ability to see that light. Take the time you need to heal and get better.


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Any suggestions?

My suggestion may not align with your plans, but I'm thinking you need to keep as busy as possible. Work can be a blessing that way when dealing with a loss.

I was married to a woman going through bouts of depression and it seemed that if she had time to retreat into herself the situation got worse, and when she got a job things got better.


I agree with you in that I need to keep busy, but not so far from home. I did not quit my job to sit on my butt and watch Oprah and eat bon-bons. (Although that sounds pretty good.) I quit my job because I need the break and the commute and being gone for 12 hours a day is too stressful right now.

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Kate :)

Anytime you need anything..let me know ) I had a really crappy night at work, but I'm smiling now from reading your posts. Keep busy doing all the things you put off because you were working. There is light at the end and you have an unique ability to see that light. Take the time you need to heal and get better.


Big Kirra HUGS!


Thank you! :)
Sorry you had a suckish night and I'm glad you're smiling! Wish I had a bunch of money...I'd take this time off to fly over and get you and take us to go see Lydiaa.

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I agree with you in that I need to keep busy, but not so far from home. I did not quit my job to sit on my butt and watch Oprah and eat bon-bons. (Although that sounds pretty good.) I quit my job because I need the break and the commute and being gone for 12 hours a day is too stressful right now.
Perhaps then some volunteer work in your community when you catch your breath?

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Yes. I'm hoping after some healing time at home to get more involved in our church.

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Homeschooling your son sounds like a great option.

Give the two of you more time together, and it will certainly keep you busy.

My advice: don't buy some pre-worked up curriculum- let him study things he's interested in, read to him lots, and let him read lots.

There really isn't that much you need to teach them by the end of highschool, so take it slow and make sure he enjoys what he's learning.

Lots of wonderful stuff to do with hikes, trips, etc.

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Nehyr, yes yes yes yes!
My son is very bright, so I have no worries that we will be able to get him through the basics that he needs.
There is a large homeschool network in my area including yearly conferences and legal aid with a membership.
I want to let my son explore and learn with his natural curiosity so I envision, realistically, a few hours a week at a table doing paperwork, and the rest of the time hands-on learning in the woods, the kitchen, the yard, etc.
I am very much looking forward to this but trying not to get my hopes up just in case I don't get to do it.

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All the best to ya, Kate. As always.

You are an amazing individual. Keep doing whatever it is that makes you happy. I love listening to your singing and playing. Like I said, if I can get the nerve to do it, I want to post a vid of me playing and Oonagh singing...inspired by you, of course.

Be well and we're all here for you.

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Thanks Foamy.
You've been threatening to post that for awhile now...I'm anxious to hear/see it.
(You too Midgen!!!!!!)

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From first hand experience, listening to Midgen play is a treat.

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Micheal wrote:
From first hand experience, listening to Midgen play is a treat.


Lucky! I've been wanting to hear him play since he started teasing us with all these hand-crafted guitars. I'd love to hear how they sound....

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Are you sure (and it may be too late now, but maybe not) about quitting the job? Did you look into FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act)?

As for other things, my wife found that volunteering part time in the pre-school program at church provided her a lot of comfort and a chance to be out of the house.


As I've previously mentioned before, you may contact us (me or my wife) any time if you need someone to talk to about things.

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Yes, I am sure about the job. I have struggled with this decision for several months, actually.
I am not opposed to working, just not so far away from home, and not right now.
As far as church goes, I joined the choir and we have a few things coming up for that. I have volunteered in the nursery before so I am not opposed to it, I'll just have to see where I am needed.
Thank you for your offer, I don't know why I haven't taken you up on it yet. Are you on facebook? I'll PM you my profile link.

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Kate :)

Anytime you need anything..let me know ) I had a really crappy night at work, but I'm smiling now from reading your posts. Keep busy doing all the things you put off because you were working. There is light at the end and you have an unique ability to see that light. Take the time you need to heal and get better.


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Thank you! :)
Sorry you had a suckish night and I'm glad you're smiling! Wish I had a bunch of money...I'd take this time off to fly over and get you and take us to go see Lydiaa.


Can you stopover in Vegas and pick me up too? I've always wanted to go diving in Aussieland.

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Go to Ayers Rock too, much more spiritual, expensive, and you get to climb a hundred story rock.

Kirra can get to know you on the way up and decide whether or not to push you off the top as she does.

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Go to Ayers Rock too, much more spiritual, expensive, and you get to climb a hundred story rock.

Kirra can get to know you on the way up and decide whether or not to push you off the top as she does.


Isn't Ayers Rock (Uluru, if i remember the local name for it) like 1100 miles from anything?

That's a long trek to see a huge rock, if you ask me.

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Its a spiritual journey, their are tour companies that specialize in taking you there and . . . and . . . and its all hypothetical anyway, as well as an easy way to take a cheap shot at the Mus.

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LadyKate wrote:
Micheal wrote:
From first hand experience, listening to Midgen play is a treat.


Lucky! I've been wanting to hear him play since he started teasing us with all these hand-crafted guitars. I'd love to hear how they sound....

He claims to need to build up a few more to make a comparative YouTube sound demo-ing worth doing.

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Good Luck LadyKate =)


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Go to Ayers Rock too, much more spiritual, expensive, and you get to climb a hundred story rock.

Kirra can get to know you on the way up and decide whether or not to push you off the top as she does.


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They're prohibiting climbing Uluru.

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That’s a really important sacred thing that you are climbing… You shouldn’t climb. It’s not the real thing about this place. The real thing is listening to everything. And maybe that makes you a bit sad. But anyway that’s what we have to say. We are obliged by Tjukurpa to say. And all the tourists will brighten up and say, ‘Oh I see. This is the right way. This is the thing that’s right. This is the proper way: no climbing.
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The ‘climb’ is the traditional route taken by the ancestral Mala (hare-wallaby men) on their arrival at Uluru, and as such is of great spiritual significance. Tjukurpa requires that Nguraritja take responsibility for looking after visitors to their country and each time a visitor is seriously or fatally injured at Uluru, Nguraritja share in the grieving process. It is this ‘duty of care’ under Tjukurpa that is the basis of Nguraritja’s stress and grieving for those injured. Although climbing Uluru is an attraction for some visitors, it is the view of Nguraritja that visitors should not climb as it does not respect the spiritual and safety aspects of Tjukurpa.
It was not until the area was handed back to Anangu in 1985 that recognition of the cultural significance of Uluru and Kata Tjuta began to influence the management of the Park. Similarly the Tjukurpa of Uluru, and as a result Anangu opinion about the climb itself, began to publicly emerge (Hueneke 2006).
Whilst understanding of the cultural impact of climbing has emerged as a major issue since joint management, the safety aspects of the climb have been a constant challenge since visitors first started coming to Uluru.
In the past, many people have been injured and more than 30 people have died attempting to climb the very steep Uluru path. Current management measures to address visitor health and safety risks associated with the climb include provision of safety information in Park visitor guides; safety signs at the base of the climb; presentations at the Cultural Centre and on the Mala Walk; closure of the climb under the EPBC Regulations during defined environmental conditions; and coordination of visitor rescues from Uluru when required. A health and safety review of the climb has been undertaken (DNP 2007). The review found that, despite these measures, visitor incidents continue to occur albeit at a reduced frequency and level of seriousness – there were no fatalities on the climb in the years 2002–2008.
Considerable resources are dedicated to managing the climb and to related health and safety issues. Maintenance of the Park’s vertical rescue capability requires that the numerous staff involved undertake intensive external training and regular in-house training. Each time an incident occurs several staff and emergency personnel are involved and helicopters are often utilised. Search and rescue operations in the park often require those involved to undertake some level of personal risk.
Research was undertaken over a three-year period to assess visitors’ motivation for climbing Uluru, or choosing not to climb. The results showed that just over one-third of all visitors to the Park chose to climb, a high percentage of these being children. The review found that overall not being able to climb would not affect the decision to visit the Park for the vast majority of visitors (98 per cent).
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The issue of children climbing is also of serious concern as the climb is a high risk activity. The above research showed that many children either did not understand the cultural reasons for not climbing or had to make a decision between the ‘do not climb message’ and their parents telling them it was alright to climb.
During the 4th Plan the climb was closed when conditions posed a risk to visitors, including extreme temperatures or storms. During the summer months this meant that the climb was closed for most of the time, except in the early mornings. In 2008 a decision was made, in agreement with the tourism industry, to close the climb after 8.00 am every day from 1 December to the end of February.
As an iconic travel destination on the one hand, and a site with extreme cultural importance to Nguraritja on the other, management of Uluru and the climb in particular is complex. Since the Park’s establishment, the Board has agreed not to close the climb but instead to ask visitors to respect Anangu law and culture by not climbing, and to learn about the land and culture through alternative activities. Nguraritja continue to emphasise their wish that people do not climb Uluru and have expressed disappointment that the activity continues.
Issues
The safety and enjoyment of Park visitors, protecting Park values, and respecting wishes of • Nguraritja are pivotal to future management directions.
The issue of the climb remains a focus for Park management.•
Providing and maintaining a range of activities will assist visitors to experience Park values • in environmentally and culturally appropriate ways.
Some visitors are still arriving in the Park unaware of the views and values of Ngura• ritja about access to parts of the Park, including the Uluru climb.
The Park’s walking tracks need to be maintained in good condition.•
With the increasing popularity of bicycle riding, safety issues are becoming a concern.•
Provision of future visitor activities and facilities will need to take account of changing • climatic conditions.
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6.3.1 At the commencement of this Plan, camping in and access to the Park between sunset and sunrise will continue to be prohibited. However, the Board may revise this decision and, following consultations with Nguraritja and the tourism industry, provide for activities at night subject to conditions specified by the Board.
6.3.2 The Board may approve development of other new activities consistent with the tourism principles (at Policy 6.1.1) subject to appropriate consultations with Nguraritja and the tourism industry, and assessment processes (see Sections 4.1, Making decisions and working together, 8.5, Assessment of proposals and 8.7 New activities not otherwise specified in this Plan). Particular emphasis will be given to activities which increase opportunities for Anangu engagement.
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6.3.3 The Uluru climb will be managed in accordance with the following:
(a) At the commencement of this Plan, the climb will continue to be open subject to health and safety measures to minimise risks to visitors. These measures may include, but not be limited to:
improved graphic signageÌÌ
closure during periods when the climate is likely to pose increased risks to visitorsÌÌ
seasonal closure over the summer months due to high temperaturesÌÌ
other restrictions or measures in consultation with the tourism industry
ÌÌand Nguraritja
continued and consistent measures to promote the ‘do not climb’ message ÌÌfrom Nguraritja
provision and promotion of alternative activities.ÌÌ
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(b) For visitor safety, cultural, and environmental reasons the Director and the Board will work towards closure of the climb. Parks Australia will work with the tourism industry and Nguraritja to ensure that:
visitors continue to be provided with a unique and rewarding experience of the ParkÌÌ
the tourism industry has sufficient lead time to amend and advertise new itinerariesÌÌ
impacts on the tourism industry are minimised.ÌÌ
6.3.5 Upgrading, construction and management of existing or new walking tracks and facilities will be undertaken in accordance with Section 4.1, Making decisions and working together and Section 6.1, Tourism directions. See also Section 6.2.
6.3.6 The following recreational activities are prohibited by the EPBC Regulations, and permits will not be issued to undertake them in the Park:
climbing, abseiling on, or jumping from rock faces--
bungee jumping and BASE jumping--
hang-gliding, paragliding and similar activities.--

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Not outright forbidding the climb, just controlling when and where you climb and what else you can do.

As I said earlier, it is a spiritual journey, but those I have known who have gone there have climbed.

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Yeh, this is as of the end of last year. Section 6.3.3 §(b) Says "For visitor safety, cultural, and environmental reasons the Director and the Board will work towards closure of the climb."

So yeah. Its currently 'openish' but in the near future will more than likely be closed.

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