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Indicted does not mean tried...

Powell was convicted in the 1999 murder of Stacie Reed and the rape of her 14-year-old sister in their Manassas, Virginia, family home.

The state's highest court eventually threw out the 2000 verdict in the first trial, saying prosecutors had not proven other necessary death-eligible offenses were committed against the 16-year-old.

The sexual assault and attempted murder of Stacie's younger sister was upheld, and Powell was given a long prison sentence.

With this first-hand account from Powell, he was indicated again and charged with murder and attempted rape of Stacie -- a capital-eligible crime. He was convicted again, and federal and state courts subsequently upheld the conviction on appeal.

Also a retrial after a conviction has been set aside following the grant of a motion for new trial, has been reversed on appeal, or has been vacated in a collateral proceeding (such as habeas corpus), does not violate double jeopardy because the judgment in the first trial has been invalidated.

Just saying, why would you think double jeopardy applies? As Micheal said, stupid is...

He got to fry. Awesome.

So what inspires someone to choose the Electric Chair over Lethal Injection?

Its unfortunate the UK doesn't have the death penalty. They clearly have some people that not worth letting live.

I couldn't finish that article.

Author:	Micheal [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:07 am ]
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Darwin Award level stupidity. http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/19/vir ... tml?hpt=T2 Virginia killer who sent taunting letter executed By Bill Mears, CNN Supreme Court producer March 19, 2010 2:08 a.m. EDT Paul Warner Powell was executed Thursday night in the murder and attempted rape of Stacie Reed, 16. (CNN) -- The murderer of a 16-year-old girl who bragged about his crimes was electrocuted Thursday night, a spokesman for the Virginia Department of Corrections said. Paul Warner Powell was pronounced dead at 9:09 p.m. at a correctional center in Jarratt, Virginia. He did not make a last statement at the execution attended by the victim's family. Powell was convicted in the 1999 murder of Stacie Reed and the rape of her 14-year-old sister in their Manassas, Virginia, family home. Powell's execution comes after Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell denied him clemency and the U.S. Supreme Court declined to block the execution. The killer claimed double jeopardy after state prosecutors put him on trial for a second time in the killing. In July, the high court delayed Powell's execution while considering the broader constitutional claims, which were finally rejected. Powell rejected lethal injection, the state's usual method of execution. "I'm hopeful this is the last legal chapter in the long history of this case," said Powell's prosecutor, Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul Ebert. "The survivors -- Stacie's mother and [her sister] -- have really been traumatized by delay after delay. Hopefully they're going to get some peace and closure after all these years." CNN does not identify sexual assault victims without their permission, even though the surviving victim, now 25, has talked publicly about the case. The crime shocked the Washington, D.C. area. Reed knew Powell, then 20 and an admitted racist. The state's highest court eventually threw out the 2000 verdict in the first trial, saying prosecutors had not proven other necessary death-eligible offenses were committed against the 16-year-old. Such "aggravating" factors could include rape, attempted rape or robbery in commission of the murder. The sexual assault and attempted murder of Stacie's younger sister was upheld, and Powell was given a long prison sentence. Powell, believing he was free from execution, proceeded to write a taunting, profanity-filled letter from behind bars to Ebert, laying out explicit details of the crime unknown to investigators at the time. "Since I have already been indicted on first degree murder and the Va. Supreme Court said that I can't be charged with capital murder again, I figured I would tell you the rest of what happened on Jan. 29, 1999, to show you how stupid all of y'all ... are," wrote Powell, who is white. He said he had gone to the Reed house to confront Stacie about dating a black man. He admitted pinning the victim, threatening to rape her, then stabbing her in the heart when the girl resisted. He then stomped on her throat. "I guess I forgot to mention these events when I was being questioned. Ha Ha!" he wrote in 2001. "Do you just hate yourself for being so stupid ... and saving me?" The killer also said that after that crime, he waited in the house until the younger girl returned from school, then attacked her, leaving her for dead. In the meantime, he drank iced tea from the family refrigerator and smoked a cigarette, part of the forensic evidence that investigators used to place Powell at the scene of the crime. With this first-hand account from Powell, he was indicated again and charged with murder and attempted rape of Stacie -- a capital-eligible crime. He was convicted again, and federal and state courts subsequently upheld the conviction on appeal. ------------------------------------------------------------------

Author:	Taskiss [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:54 am ]
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"Do you just hate yourself for being so stupid ... and saving me?" Makes me glad there is the death penalty.

Author:	Nevandal [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:12 am ]
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What a prick! Deserved to die, as much as I hate to say something like that.

Author:	Hopwin [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:52 am ]
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Indicted does not mean tried...

Author:	Taskiss [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:02 pm ]
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Hopwin wrote: Indicted does not mean tried... Dead does mean dead, though.

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Author:	Hopwin [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:04 pm ]
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Just saying, why would you think double jeopardy applies? As Micheal said, stupid is...

Author:	Mookhow [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:39 pm ]
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Micheal wrote: Powell was convicted in the 1999 murder of Stacie Reed and the rape of her 14-year-old sister in their Manassas, Virginia, family home. Quote: The state's highest court eventually threw out the 2000 verdict in the first trial, saying prosecutors had not proven other necessary death-eligible offenses were committed against the 16-year-old. The sexual assault and attempted murder of Stacie's younger sister was upheld, and Powell was given a long prison sentence. Quote: With this first-hand account from Powell, he was indicated again and charged with murder and attempted rape of Stacie -- a capital-eligible crime. He was convicted again, and federal and state courts subsequently upheld the conviction on appeal. He was tried, convicted, had the conviction turned over, then tried again and convicted. This is double jeopardy, yes? However, according to Wikipedia: Quote: Also a retrial after a conviction has been set aside following the grant of a motion for new trial, has been reversed on appeal, or has been vacated in a collateral proceeding (such as habeas corpus), does not violate double jeopardy because the judgment in the first trial has been invalidated. So, since the case was turned over on appeal (vacated? I'm not sure of the distinction), double jeopardy doesn't apply. I can see why he might think it could, though. Still an idiot, and good riddance.

Author:	Taskiss [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:05 pm ]
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Hopwin wrote: Just saying, why would you think double jeopardy applies? As Micheal said, stupid is... I only meant to point out that his opportunity to appeal has been seriously reduced.

Author:	Rodahn [ Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:11 pm ]
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That guy was an idiot. But the death penalty is also idiotic.

Author:	Talya [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:11 pm ]
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He got to fry. Awesome. So what inspires someone to choose the Electric Chair over Lethal Injection?

Author:	Elmarnieh [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:21 pm ]
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Also the introduction of new evidence (like a confession) does not break double jeopardy.

Author:	Aethien [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:16 pm ]
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Talya wrote: He got to fry. Awesome. So what inspires someone to choose the Electric Chair over Lethal Injection? He may figure that there's at least an off-chance that the chair won't work, whereas lethal injection is pretty ... lethal. Or, maybe he saw that cheesy Wes Craven flick, Shocker, where the guy survives the chair and turns into a bad-ass. He's stupid, who knows how his head works?

Author:	Ladas [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:47 pm ]
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Its unfortunate the UK doesn't have the death penalty. They clearly have some people that not worth letting live.

Author:	Taskiss [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:17 pm ]
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Ladas wrote: Its unfortunate the UK doesn't have the death penalty. They clearly have some people that not worth letting live. I couldn't finish that article.

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Author:	Squirrel Girl [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:56 am ]
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Ladas wrote: Its unfortunate the UK doesn't have the death penalty. They clearly have some people that not worth letting live. This is why I did not do pediatric rehabilitation after residency. I saw too many of the 'survivors' of treatment like this. Now, I am going into my corner to be sick.

Author:	Ladas [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:01 pm ]
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Taskiss wrote: I couldn't finish that article. Stuff like that, or like this are really hard on me. My son is in that age range, and its far too easy to picture him horrified in similiar situations.