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 Post subject: Re: Olbermann suspended
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:34 pm 
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I'm trying to point out that allowing people to contract for anything leads to horrible atrocities. Major employers have a considerable amount of power. How about a major employer updating their employment contract to require that all employees send their children to work 16 hours a day for the company without pay? If you don't sign, you're fired.


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I'm near speechless, but not quite. This is retarded. First of all, you can't require third party contracts without their consent. Secondly, child labor was nearly completely done away with in the US private sector more than 100 years ago, long before any legislation to that effect was passed and as such your example is absurdly hyperbolic. Lastly, show evidence that contracts between two people surrounding things that aren't illegal leads to "horrible atrocities".

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:02 pm 
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Xequecal wrote:
I'm trying to point out that allowing people to contract for anything leads to horrible atrocities. Major employers have a considerable amount of power. How about a major employer updating their employment contract to require that all employees send their children to work 16 hours a day for the company without pay? If you don't sign, you're fired.


That's completely idiotic. The employees would just quit en masse and the employer would be SOL.

Employers don't have that kind of power when there's a contract. They have that kind of power when they're the only game in town (and I mean as in they literally own the town, or close to it) and there aren't contracts involved, just employment under whatever conditions they damn well please on that day, or when there is a contract but no court to enforce it.

That situation doesn't exist and isn't likely to.

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The only time an employer has power over an employee in the US is when the employee is making more than they can make working for a different employer.

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And he's back

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20 ... on-tuesday

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That's pretty much just evidence that MSNBC is more concerned with discrediting FOX News than anything else, especially given MSNBC's commentators predisposition for calling themselves news anchors, while FOX is pretty upfront about its commentariat being commentators and opinion shows. This situation speaks very, very poorly about the integrity of MSNBC.

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Xequecal wrote:
I'm trying to point out that allowing people to contract for anything leads to horrible atrocities. Major employers have a considerable amount of power. How about a major employer updating their employment contract to require that all employees send their children to work 16 hours a day for the company without pay? If you don't sign, you're fired.
Well, for starters, that would violate child labor laws. We don't need to make something against the law when it's already against the law. Furthermore, we have laws against extortion and blackmail. "We're changing the deal. Sign the new contract or you're fired." - That doesn't really fly in a court of law. A contract is a deal made between two willing parties, and that's why its legally binding. When one party only enters into the contract under threat of physical or economic harm, it's no longer consensual. "I've altered our deal, pray I don't alter it any further," works in the movies, it doesn't work in the American legal system.

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Ha.... from the article that Michael linked...

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The suspension brought into the focus the ongoing tensions between the nonpartisan NBC News and the partisan hosts on MSNBC.


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