The Glade 4.0

GWB could easily have gotten away with it. That was in 2001, not 2011. The recession was years away, the government was only one year off an actual surplus, the national debt was projected to significantly decrease. Why would other countries dump us as a reserve currency then? We didn't nuke Afghanistan because they owed us money. A trade embargo would hurt the rest of the world far more than it would hurt us. With our massive trade deficit that would allow us to actually have traded worthless paper for real goods and never have to pay anything back.

In my opinion the real issue with nuking Afghanistan is part of Afghanistan was actually in armed revolt against the Taliban at the time. In other words, we'd be nuking people that are not only completely innocent, but actually fighting against our enemy.

Yeah, that's exaclty what would have happenend if we'd made a nuclear strike after a suitable warning following 9-11.

Because all these other nations would really want to deal with the consequences of that themselves.

Because all of our allies - you know, like those that have their own deterrent, or those that "share" our nuclear weapons, or just those that happen to have aggressive neighbors of their own would really want to have a worldwide trade embargo. Yeah, I'm sure Japan would really like to

You're just picking up on this liberal line about "bravado" and Teenagers" and whatnot because the discussion is about Saint Ron Paul. It's nothing more than you trying desperately to sound mature and measured because you think your guy may actually have a shot. The problem, however, is that you really don't understand the first thing about what you're talking about. It's really just the most amazing coincidence how you're advocating foreign policy Monty was advocating 3, 4, 5 years ago all of a sudden now that it fits with what your boy is espousing.

This is just you pulling whatever dire consequences occur to you straight out of your ***, claiming they'd happen for no apparent reason, and then trying to score points with talk about teenagers and stuff - as if you don't have a lengthy history of recommending shooting anyone who takes any action you don't like.

In point of fact, it's you who's acting like a teenager who has found a new quarterback or pitcher to worship. Saint Ron Paul can do no wrong, his foreign, economic, and every other policy is wonderful, there are no drawbacks, blah blah blah.

The real fact of the matter is that Ron Paul is your candidate and you just can't take criticism of him. You haven't given a damn bit of thought to geopolitical reality, strategy, or anything practical like that in the last 6 years, all you've done is piously preach the gospel of your ideology completely abstracted from any practical concern. You've just been in love with his domestic/fiscal/economic policies because they're as close as you'll ever get to your own ideas in a candidate with a shot in hell at actually winning. Now all of a sudden you are confronted with the fact that people might actually give a **** about his foreign policy views, and that the rest of us are not going to decide they're acceptable just because they're "constitutional" according to you or something. So, you just start repeating the same tired old lines liberals do about how we can't defend ourselves because other countries might not like it. That's all your objection above is - a Monty line for 4 years or more ago, adjusted to the topic at hand.

Trust me, you're doing nothing whatsoever to convince me to vote for him. Rynar at least tried to make an argument. All you've done, however, is try to act condescending in the process of showing you don't know your *** from a hole in the ground.

Oh well, you still don't know how to disuss things without just begging the question and poisoning the well as the entirity of your discussion. Back to ignore you go!

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

How exactly do you think we'd be doing that? You don't target the entire country, you target specific things. Specifically, things not in that part of the country.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Impossible to have a discussion because you can't accept other people have a rational basis for their ideas.

You won't be missed DE.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Hardly, Elmo. It's just you that lacks a rational basis. Comapre your own posts to Rynar's; you might learn something.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."