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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:50 am 
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"There was no terrorism factor behind the bus incident," Syrian Interior Minister Said Sammour said. "The bus entered a petrol station to have one of its burst tires inflated and the tire exploded. Three people were killed."


Looking at that picture how can they possibly try to pass this off as a blowout?

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I suppose, with the lax safety standards in that part of the world, that its possible that the tire explosion caused some gas line or other to rupture and burn. Some tires are notoriously dangerous to inflate; for example on the old 2 1/2 ton trucks you had to use a tire cage because people had been killed by exploding tires before.

That said, I think it's more likely that this is an "Iraqi Information Minister" moment, although without a claims of responsibility from a terorist group its hard to know say.

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I once read an article about the amount of gasoline spilled in some countries (mostly middle eastern) where, for whatever reason, people tend to be less than careful with filling the tanks on the, leaving gallons of standing gas spread around the pumps.


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That's one hell of a tire.

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Modern steel-belted radial tires are unlikely to fail in a catastrophic manner, much less with the amount of energy to destroy a bus like that and cause that much damage.

Tire ruptures are possible when the tire is being pressurized depending on the pressurizing agent's capabilities. Most fililng stations are only capable of instrument air quality pressures. This means the total pressure is low as well as the rate of inflation which is critical to causing tire ruptures. Unless they were filling it from a rigged up set-up like from a pressurized cylinder, this is definitely some sort of really weak cover-up. And in even that case, if the tire was relatively new at all (like made in the last 25 years), tires are designed fail due to overpressurization by delamination of the plies with a subsequent "soft rupture", rather than outright bursting. Tires are strong laterally (and even stronger laterally as the aspect ratio lowers), and the plies provide strength against puncture, but typically are made to be weak against internal pressures to prevent a castrophic failure.

As for an event like a gas line rupture, I'd agree, that's possible. But I think we'd all agree that anyone willing to believe that wants to believe it wasn't a bomb, anyway.

At least make up a good excuse. I would have sooner believed that Emperor Palpatine's reincarnation came down and **** it up with some Force Lightning.

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Rafael wrote:
Modern steel-belted radial tires are unlikely to fail in a catastrophic manner, much less with the amount of energy to destroy a bus like that and cause that much damage.

Tire ruptures are possible when the tire is being pressurized depending on the pressurizing agent's capabilities. Most fililng stations are only capable of instrument air quality pressures. This means the total pressure is low as well as the rate of inflation which is critical to causing tire ruptures. Unless they were filling it from a rigged up set-up like from a pressurized cylinder, this is definitely some sort of really weak cover-up. And in even that case, if the tire was relatively new at all (like made in the last 25 years), tires are designed fail due to overpressurization by delamination of the plies with a subsequent "soft rupture", rather than outright bursting. Tires are strong laterally (and even stronger laterally as the aspect ratio lowers), and the plies provide strength against puncture, but typically are made to be weak against internal pressures to prevent a castrophic failure.

As for an event like a gas line rupture, I'd agree, that's possible. But I think we'd all agree that anyone willing to believe that wants to believe it wasn't a bomb, anyway.

At least make up a good excuse. I would have sooner believed that Emperor Palpatine's reincarnation came down and **** it up with some Force Lightning.


I don't believe them either, but I wouldn't go that far. Thisi is Syria (not Sparta) modern steel-belted radials may or may not be in use, or manufactured to our standards and their gas stations aren't up to our standards. I don't buy the tire story, but I don't think it's totally absurd either.

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I imagine most tires in the world, even those in clandestine, third world countries, ultimately originate from design and manufacturing most of us buy our tirs from.

I suppose it isn't far fetched to say the tire could have killed someone. However, to cause that much damage, I don't think anyone would believe that. That bus looks terrible.

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"Syrian Blast?" OK, now PepsiCo. is just getting really insensitive with their new Mt. Dew flavor names.


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FarSky wrote:
"Syrian Blast?" OK, now PepsiCo. is just getting really insensitive with their new Mt. Dew flavor names.


I can't imagine what this would taste like.

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"Syrian Blast?" OK, now PepsiCo. is just getting really insensitive with their new Mt. Dew flavor names.


I can't imagine what this would taste like.


Burnt rubber, apparently.

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FarSky wrote:
"Syrian Blast?" OK, now PepsiCo. is just getting really insensitive with their new Mt. Dew flavor names.

You haven't lived until you've had an Open Sodomy Float made with Syrian Blast!

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I'm betting Bananas, Mountain Dew Code Red, whipped cream and chocolate syrup would be involved.

Think about what that represents.

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FarSky wrote:
"Syrian Blast?" OK, now PepsiCo. is just getting really insensitive with their new Mt. Dew flavor names.

It's part of their new campaign to push soft drinks in the Middle East. They call it their "Extreme is just another word for Fanatical" campaign.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
FarSky wrote:
"Syrian Blast?" OK, now PepsiCo. is just getting really insensitive with their new Mt. Dew flavor names.

It's part of their new campaign to push soft drinks in the Middle East. They call it their "Extreme is just another word for Fanatical" campaign.


"Its like a taste explosion, but instead of your pants, its IN YOUR MOUTH!"
"The intensity of a Jihad with all the flavor of Mecca!"
"Moses drank coke, Syrian blast is what Mohammed would drink!"
"Syrian Blast! It'd give a Shiite a Sunni disposition!"

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Müs wrote:
"Syrian Blast! It'd give a Shiite a Sunni disposition!"


laughing so hard tears rolling down face...

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