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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:26 am 
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Elmarnieh wrote:
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I reiterate: Go in with guns and hang people.


I find it interesting that this is your answer to basically everything.


I note you didn't say you disagree in this instance.


Don't know enough to say if the hospital is wrong or not. Even if it is, that isn't the right answer. Tried by a jury of their peers is the right answer.


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The *real* problem here is that "patient confidentiality" is being used to protect the hospital, not the patient.

Her parents should be able to waive that confidentiality to get disclosure to the press and courts to get this sorted out properly in the light of day. Of course, thanks to the wisdom of the State, they're no longer the legal guardians, so the hospital's *** is covered.

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I'd have to go back and find the article I read (I think it was on Boston.com), but I think I read that 'they' decided not to press contempt charges against the father for going to the media. The gag order was unconstitutional and there is no way they would have won a civil rights case had one materialized out of it.


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Here is an updated article from FoxNews (i know... it's the only updated article I could find).

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  • Justina's parents won the right to take her back to her preferred doctors at Tufts
  • The contempt of court charges (for violating the gag order) against the father were dropped
  • The girl is still in the custody of the poorly named Massachusetts Department of Children and Families, although the parents have requested to have custody transferred to their counterparts in her home state of Connecticut

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03 ... ts-family/

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Justina Pelletier's family wins right to take her back to preferred doctors
The ailing teenager at the center of an interstate custody battle is going back under the care of Tufts Medical Center, where she was being treated until another Boston hospital made a different diagnosis and urged child protection officials to take her away from her family.

The development in the case of Justina Pelletier, 15, came at an attorneys-only hearing in Boston, where a contempt of court order against her father was also lifted. Lou Pelletier violated a gag order when he appeared on Fox News Channel's "The Kelly File" last month to decry Massachusetts Department of Children and Families' decision to take his daughter, who is from Connecticut and was only in the Bay State to get medical treatment.

Doctors at Tufts performed surgery on Justina and prescribed medication, all to treat her for a rare condition called Mitochondrial diagnosis. But when Pelletier took his daughter to Boston Children’s Hospital to seek treatment for a negative reaction to the flu last year, doctors determined that her problems were partly psychiatric and that the invasive treatment at Tufts constituted medical abuse. They contacted DCF, which took the girl.

Justina spent the past 13 months detained in two Massachusetts’s facilities against her parents’ wishes. She is currently being held at the Wayside Youth and Family Support Network facility in Framingham, Mass., after spending a year at the Boston Children’s Hospital.

Also at Monday's meeting, lawyers for the Pelletiers sought to have DCF transfer custody of the girl to their counterparts in Connecticut while the family continues to fight for her return. A decision on that issue could come on March 17.

The Pelletiers have allies in the Massachusetts Legislature, where 16 lawmakers drafted a resolution last week in an attempt to strip Justina’s custodial rights from the DCF.

“DCF is an agency in disarray,” said state Rep. Marc Lambardo, the Massachusetts state legislator who authored the resolution. “This is an administration that has been built on a lack of transparency and patronage.”

Keith Mason, president of Personhood USA and advocate for the Pelletier family, said the girl's yearlong saga began when her family sought out top-notch medical care and followed the advice of doctors.

“This is a situation where a young woman’s dignity isn’t being respected and she’s being treated as a piece of property,” Mason said.

The family has received an outpouring of national support after Lou Pelletier exposed the case on national television on Feb. 20. He told Fox News he doesn't regret breaking the gag order.

“DCF and the prosecution are beyond aggravated that I went to the media. But if I hadn’t, no one would know about the injustice that has taken place,” Pelletier said. “If it wasn’t for me breaking the gag order, we wouldn’t be where we are today.”

Tufts Medical Center diagnosed Justina in January 2012 with Mitochondrial Disease, a rare medical condition that is maternally inherited and caused by genetic mutation, according to Arthur Caplan, director of the Division of Medical Ethics at NYU Langone Medical Center.

At Tufts, Justina underwent an extensive medical treatment program involving invasive surgery and medication, all related to her Mitochondrial diagnosis. According to Lou Pelletier, Justina’s medical treatment was under the direction of Dr. Mark S. Korson, a respected physician who specialized in metabolic disorders, and all surgical procedures were approved by medical insurance.

But at Boston Children’s Hospital Dr. Jurrian Peters assessed Justina’s symptoms and brought in a psychologist, concluding that her medical problems were brought on by a psychiatric disease called Somatoform Disorder.

Boston Children’s Hospital asked the Pelletiers to sign a form agreeing to cease any further medical treatment in regards to the Mitochondrial Disease. When they objected and demanded to bring Justina back to Tufts where she had been treated for a year, they brought DCF in and stripped them of their custodial rights on grounds of alleged medical abuse.

Mat Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel and the Pelletiers’ attorney, said he was astounded after learning the facts of the case.

“The more I learned, the more I realized there was an issue within the Boston Children’s Hospital, DCF, and the Massachusetts juvenile court system,” Staver said.

Staver said that under DCF care, Justina has been denied education, religious services and adequate medical treatment. Subsequently, he said Justina’s health is failing and she has fallen two grades behind her classmates.

Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, director of Charity Defense Organizations, took an active role in advancing a national campaign to “Free Justina.”

He led a prayer vigil Saturday outside the Framingham facility, where Justina remains, in the company of family, friends and fellow advocates of Justina’s cause.

“We are experiencing an avalanche of support,” Mahoney said. “We struck a nerve in the hearts of Americans about parental rights and the encroachment of government in the private lives of everyday citizens.”


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Ugh..

Here is an article on the daily mail. (i know, i know)..

If there is even a modicum of truth to what is being written here (there are specific quotes from her parents and siblings)... wow.. just so sad...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-pig.html


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:23 pm 
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Hospital didn't do anything wrong and the parents are just shitbag liars amirite?


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Lenas wrote:
Hospital didn't do anything wrong and the parents are just shitbag liars amirite?

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