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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:41 am 
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As abominable crimes against nature go, it's one of the more enjoyable ones.

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Prosecutor wasn't happy with the 10 year max sentence on the charges he could get, went for a 20 year sentence that didn't apply, rapist goes free. For added liberal outrage, this result was only possible because Oklahoma split up its rape statutes for the express purpose of being able to refer to oral sex as, "an abominable crime against nature."


Your source states it did nothing of the kind. It states that sodomy is such a crime, and furthermore, that does not mean any sodomy at all, but under the following circumstances:
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 1. Sodomy committed by a person over eighteen (18) years of age upon a person under sixteen (16) years of age; or

    2. Sodomy committed upon a person incapable through mental illness or any unsoundness of mind of giving legal consent regardless of the age of the person committing the crime; or

    3. Sodomy accomplished with any person by means of force, violence, or threats of force or violence accompanied by apparent power of execution regardless of the age of the victim or the person committing the crime; or

    4. Sodomy committed by a state, county, municipal or political subdivision employ   ee or a contractor or an employee of a contractor of the state, a county, a municipality or political subdivision of this state upon a person who is under the legal custody, supervision or authority of a state agency, a county, a municipality or a political subdivision of this state; or

    5. Sodomy committed upon a person who is at least sixteen (16) years of age but less than twenty (20) years of age and is a student of any public or private secondary school, junior high or high school, or public vocational school, with a person who is eighteen (18) years of age or older and is employed by the same school system.


So, when its committed on a mentally unsound person, a young teenager or child by an adult, a student under 21 where the perpetrator is in an educational position of authority, a person who is under arrest/in custody, or by force.

I don't know where you got this information about Oklahoma splitting its law, or when this occurred, but what it's referring to as an "abominable crime against nature" are all pretty much circumstances that we normally find objectionable.

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Any person who forces another person to engage in the detestable and abominable crime against nature


The law only applies if you force them. It's not a crime if you don't force them to engage in the "detestable and abominable crime against nature," but it's still referring to the act itself as that, not the forcing part.


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The law only applies if you force them. It's not a crime if you don't force them to engage in the "detestable and abominable crime against nature," but it's still referring to the act itself as that, not the forcing part.


Ah, I see, so you're really just ***** about a description that's irrelevant to actual enforcement of the law, and still have no evidence that getting that descriptor in was the purpose of having 2 statutes. - or if you do, still haven't bothered to post it.

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Never move to Oklahoma...


That has always been good advice.

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Never move to Oklahoma...


That has always been good advice.

I dunno...I hear it's where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.


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Raell wrote:
Never move to Oklahoma...


That has always been good advice.

I dunno...I hear it's where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.



If I can't put my penis in a chick's face, I don't want to be there.

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