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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
No, you're proposing to just give them a list of theorems (facts) with no how or why (proofs). That doesn't teach them math, it teaches them to memorize theorems.

I don't know what your math education was like, but in high school geometry, I was shown proofs in order to teach me how to prove things myself, so that they wouldn't have to do the proofs on the board for everything to tell me why something was the case.


EXACTLY. Without providing the students with examples on HOW and WHY, the student can't learn how to establish the how and why in other non-presented examples. That's exactly my point, thank you. If you just provide them a list of facts (theorems and rules) then their understanding will be seriously lacking. Now, with mathematics, there's obviously not a whole lot of room for bias to be injected, but the same necessity exists for other subjects such as history. You need to show the students the how and why of history by providing interpretation and analysis, so that they learn to process other aspects (and reprocess the same information) on their own.


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You're still stuck on not giving the students the tools they need to interpret the facts for themselves. It's obvious that there's nothing I can do to change that; I'll stop trying. You'll continue believing that the only way to teach about history is to spoon-feed students a version of events that aligns with the agenda because that is the only thing you know.


I'm not stuck on anything, nor have I ever proposed "not giving students tools". In fact, pretty much nothing in what you say above is accurate. I'm guessing then you just ran out of arguments so you're making stuff up?

Specifically, I actually argued against spoon-feeding events that align with agenda, and opened my discussion with problems associated with bias in these classes and other works.

Your post above is so far out of whack I'm starting to wonder if you read some other post somewhere else and inadvertently replied to mine. I hope that's the case, because otherwise - well, I'll just leave it at that.


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