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Jasmy smash!


What are you trying to accomplish? If you have nothing good to say about anyone here, why are you here? Is it really necessary to piss all over the place for fun?


Let me get this straight. At no time in the last few days have I used any language even approaching a blanket insult to everyone on the board. Nitefox, however, has used some pretty inflammatory language. Libtard, blatant curse words, etc, to directly and clearly attack me.

So, really, who is on the low road here? Jasmy came out swinging without provocation. Then Jasmy freaked out about pointing to a hideous thread that happened in the not so distant past. Jasmy overreacted. Nitefox freaked out that the vocal "libtard" dared to show his face again and be liberal.

I have lots of good things to say about folks here. Is it necessary for Nitefox and others to immediately get their backs up and be so directly and clearly hostile?

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You act like an ***, is it surprising you get treated as such in return?

Now, if you treated ME that way I'd give you a pass, 'cause I'm a preemptive sonofabitch and I know that no good will come from your presence... your only possible chance of redemption would be if you had a sense of humor, but you weren't issued one of those when you were indoctrinated in the KOS army.

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Jasmy smash!


What are you trying to accomplish? If you have nothing good to say about anyone here, why are you here? Is it really necessary to piss all over the place for fun?


Let me get this straight. At no time in the last few days have I used any language even approaching a blanket insult to everyone on the board. Nitefox, however, has used some pretty inflammatory language. Libtard, blatant curse words, etc, to directly and clearly attack me.

So, really, who is on the low road here? Jasmy came out swinging without provocation. Then Jasmy freaked out about pointing to a hideous thread that happened in the not so distant past. Jasmy overreacted. Nitefox freaked out that the vocal "libtard" dared to show his face again and be liberal.

I have lots of good things to say about folks here. Is it necessary for Nitefox and others to immediately get their backs up and be so directly and clearly hostile?



When did I freak out? When did I say I hated you? Do you mind answering these questions?

You're a cancer Monty, to this board and more than likely to the people around you. Go away.

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Is this a libtard or just a regular leotard? I'm so confused. :cry:


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You have been freaking out ever since I got here.

Or at least, that's how you read.

Huh...so, some people think I've been an ***. I wonder if their perception is somewhat skewed? That's an interesting concept. I wonder if preconceived bias is affecting how folks are reading my posts?

I certainly read Nitefox's posts as foaming at the mouth freakouts. But that certainly could be due to my bias against him, given that I see him as a barely controlled violent bully. I'm certainly willing to admit that my bias may not be an accurate reflection of him as a person, and could definitely color the way I read his posts...

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Monte wrote:
You have been freaking out ever since I got here.

Or at least, that's how you read.

Huh...so, some people think I've been an ***. I wonder if their perception is somewhat skewed? That's an interesting concept. I wonder if preconceived bias is affecting how folks are reading my posts?

I certainly read Nitefox's posts as foaming at the mouth freakouts. But that certainly could be due to my bias against him, given that I see him as a barely controlled violent bully. I'm certainly willing to admit that my bias may not be an accurate reflection of him as a person, and could definitely color the way I read his posts...



"Barely controlled violent bully"? That's hilarious. You want to kill cops, white people and white babies and yet I'm the barely controlled violent bully?

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I wonder if preconceived bias is affecting how folks are reading my posts?

Absolutely. Preconceived bias based on historic precedent.

You've been an *** forever. A certain charm if you're posting something that doesn't involve sharing your opinion, but those kinds of posts by you are few and far between.

You seem to enjoy rubbing folks with your 60 grit personality. It's annoying. You are treated likewise, but refuse to admit your responsibility for the exchange.

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Sweet crap.

Ban. Him.


Why? The administration has wiped their hands of the issue because they don't give a ****. They've indicated this area of the board is "hands off" and that they don't care what happens.

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Monte wrote:
You have been freaking out ever since I got here.

Or at least, that's how you read.

Huh...so, some people think I've been an ***. I wonder if their perception is somewhat skewed? That's an interesting concept. I wonder if preconceived bias is affecting how folks are reading my posts?

I certainly read Nitefox's posts as foaming at the mouth freakouts. But that certainly could be due to my bias against him, given that I see him as a barely controlled violent bully. I'm certainly willing to admit that my bias may not be an accurate reflection of him as a person, and could definitely color the way I read his posts...


That's because you see everyone who disagrees with you as violent. I've lost count of the number of spurious accusations of being "violent" you've made where no violence was occuring. You just like to say it to preclude actual discussion; if you can portray your opponent as violent you hope people will think them nutcases and ignore how utterly stupid your positions are.

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FYI---Nitefox is not violent. Not now, not ever. He doesn't behave like this IRL either. He just doesn't like Monte for whatever reasons. *shrug*

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FYI---Nitefox is not violent. Not now, not ever. He doesn't behave like this IRL either. He just doesn't like Monte for whatever reasons. *shrug*



I think the reasons are obvious!

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Well, not really. I don't mind Monte so much most of the time.

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Sweet crap.

Ban. Him.


Why? The administration has wiped their hands of the issue because they don't give a ****. They've indicated this area of the board is "hands off" and that they don't care what happens.

Because I said so?

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I'm conflicted.

Outside of Hellfire, Monte is fairly useful.

Inside Hellfire, I want to punch him.


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Say what you want but activity in this forum is way up since he came back and it is actual discussion (if profane and mean) of opposing/conflicting views.

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No. We were having a discussion. He came in and degraded it to noise. He isn't interested in discussion, he's only here to strawman and discredit sound bites.

Meaningful discussion can only happen when you have interested, and open-minded parties involved.

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Say what you want but activity in this forum is way up since he came back and it is actual discussion (if profane and mean) of opposing/conflicting views.

He engaged with some folks, and that's good... I can't fault him even a little for that. Exchange of ideas is good!

The drive-by's where his sole contribution was when he crapped in a dozen threads then took off every few days were annoying, and his insistence on being the center of attention, troll style, well, that's what garners the most "activity" so I wouldn't really call it discussion.

All in all, on a scale of 1-10, I give him a 3.

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I'm conflicted.

Outside of Hellfire, Monte is fairly useful.


He makes a good meat shield at Pennsic. ;)

Oh wait, I wasn't supposed to let him know that.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
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Jasmy smash!


What are you trying to accomplish? If you have nothing good to say about anyone here, why are you here? Is it really necessary to piss all over the place for fun?


Let me get this straight. At no time in the last few days have I used any language even approaching a blanket insult to everyone on the board. Nitefox, however, has used some pretty inflammatory language. Libtard, blatant curse words, etc, to directly and clearly attack me.

So, really, who is on the low road here? Jasmy came out swinging without provocation. Then Jasmy freaked out about pointing to a hideous thread that happened in the not so distant past. Jasmy overreacted. Nitefox freaked out that the vocal "libtard" dared to show his face again and be liberal.

I have lots of good things to say about folks here. Is it necessary for Nitefox and others to immediately get their backs up and be so directly and clearly hostile?


Sooo, let me get this straight...

You believe you have been attacked unprovoked yet again! You have called pretty much everyone on this board a racist since your return, yet we attacked you unprovoked! Got it!

You seem to be fond of your little racist anecdotes so let me relay an anecdote to you...

A few years ago, one of my husband's friends/co-workers showed up at the house unexpectedly, along with a friend of his. These men were both Mexican. They were both welcome in my home. The friend of the friend began to get very racist in his language, whereby I came out of my bedroom and told him to get out of my house!! I don't tolerate racism Montegue!! Your insinuations and accusations of racism where none belong are intolerable and ill-placed! You need look no further than your own mirror to see the biggest racist on this planet!!

Oh, and by the way Montegue, I have never seen you have anything good to say about anyone here, at least not in this forum! You may be a "nice guy" in other forums, but here you are nothing but a disruptive troll!!

(By the way, I did warn you the gloves were off...I can't help it if you can't be bothered to read!!)

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Lenas wrote:
I'm conflicted.

Outside of Hellfire, Monte is fairly useful.

Inside Hellfire, I want to punch him.


I don't want to punch him, but yeah. I actually like Monte outside of Hellfire. I really do. I mean, I hardly ever post in here, but I like to read what everyone has to say from time to time. But when I come across a Monte hellfire post, it makes my head hurt because I can't wrap my mind around how anyone could say some of the **** that spews from his mouth here.

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Most people hate me in this forum because I am liberal, I am vocal, and I am unafraid to be so. I am unafraid to point out the racism, homophobia, sexism, and blatant lies that make up the vast majority of modern conservative thought, commentary, reporting, and "reality".

I will never stop being that person.

I'm also funny, personable, knowledgeable about all sorts of non political topics, a 4.0 student, a self-employed professional fight director and actor, musician, and martial arts instructor.

But, I am also unwilling to not be who I am politically. That offends people here for many reasons. You will say it's my "posting style", but that is entirely your interpretation of my words. Your subjective perception heavily colored by your biases. The real reason it offends you is that I am not cowed, intimidated, or in any way afraid of a cavalcade of conservative hate. I have endured it for a very long time, and now it's a badge of honor.

If you hate me because I think the wealthiest people should be taxed a lot more, so be it. It does not change my mind. If you hate me because I express this belief in a mean or pointed way, so be it. You are welcome to your opinion, though I highly suggest that you put the stones down. Your glass house is barely holding it's frame together.

Jasmy, if I am talking about an organization, I am not talking about you. Unless you claim to be a part of that organization, and even then I'm not talking about you. When I talk about racist strains in the Tea Party, it's because they are there. If you don't tolerate racism, but are a Tea Party adherent, then I think you are a walking conflict of belief. Your movement is heavily supported and in many places led by blatant, dirty racists. And until that changes, until people like you who do not tolerate racism purge those elements from your organization, you are going to be saddled in some way with their hate.

you can choose to ignore it. But if you oppose racism as much as you claim, I would imagine you'd take a much stronger stance against the racism inherent in the modern conservative movement.

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No, we hate you because you lack reason, civility, responsibility,a curious mind, a willingness to incorporate new facts into your worldview, and act - as you always have - as a petulant child when others disagree with you.

You are in fact a bag of smashed ****.

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Where do you get the idea that I am affiliated with ANY Tea Bag organization anywhere?? I've said it here before and most people here already know that my political leanings are very liberal, with a bit of conservatism thrown in for balance! Then again, you can't be bothered to read anything anyone posts here, you just want to come in and spew your hatred of conservatives and call everyone here racist, over and over and over, because that's all you know!

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No, we hate you because you lack reason, civility, responsibility,a curious mind, a willingness to incorporate new facts into your worldview, and act - as you always have - as a petulant child when others disagree with you.

You are in fact a bag of smashed ****.


No, I just hate him because he's an *******, but he probably thinks he's a swell guy.

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Where do you get the idea that I am affiliated with ANY Tea Bag organization anywhere?? I've said it here before and most people here already know that my political leanings are very liberal, with a bit of conservatism thrown in for balance! Then again, you can't be bothered to read anything anyone posts here, you just want to come in and spew your hatred of conservatives and call everyone here racist, over and over and over, because that's all you know!


He doesn't care if you don't affiliate. He'll ignore that and you forever and ever and just lump you into whatever category suits him.

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Most people hate me in this forum because I am liberal, I am vocal, and I am unafraid to be so. I am unafraid to point out the racism, homophobia, sexism, and blatant lies that make up the vast majority of modern conservative thought, commentary, reporting, and "reality".

I will never stop being that person.

I'm also funny, personable, knowledgeable about all sorts of non political topics, a 4.0 student, a self-employed professional fight director and actor, musician, and martial arts instructor.

But, I am also unwilling to not be who I am politically. That offends people here for many reasons. You will say it's my "posting style", but that is entirely your interpretation of my words. Your subjective perception heavily colored by your biases. The real reason it offends you is that I am not cowed, intimidated, or in any way afraid of a cavalcade of conservative hate. I have endured it for a very long time, and now it's a badge of honor.

If you hate me because I think the wealthiest people should be taxed a lot more, so be it. It does not change my mind. If you hate me because I express this belief in a mean or pointed way, so be it. You are welcome to your opinion, though I highly suggest that you put the stones down. Your glass house is barely holding it's frame together.

Jasmy, if I am talking about an organization, I am not talking about you. Unless you claim to be a part of that organization, and even then I'm not talking about you. When I talk about racist strains in the Tea Party, it's because they are there. If you don't tolerate racism, but are a Tea Party adherent, then I think you are a walking conflict of belief. Your movement is heavily supported and in many places led by blatant, dirty racists. And until that changes, until people like you who do not tolerate racism purge those elements from your organization, you are going to be saddled in some way with their hate.

you can choose to ignore it. But if you oppose racism as much as you claim, I would imagine you'd take a much stronger stance against the racism inherent in the modern conservative movement.



The poor victim. No one hates you because you are a lib. People don't like you because you're an *******. It really is that simple. Or, what Elmo said. Azile, RD, some of the other libs that have been around...not my most favorite people in the world and they pretty much have the same view as you. But, I respect them a good bit even though I disagree with them most of the time. This is something you won't ever see because you love to be the victim. You are a cancer, a wuss, and and all around bad person. Leave.

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