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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:46 pm 
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How on earth do you get any of those wrong? Religion?


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I'd like to know if they let people answer "I don't know" to the questions. Those results look even worse when you realize that even someone that doesn't know the answer still has a 50/50 shot of getting it right anyway.


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How on earth do you get any of those wrong? Religion?


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I actually don't find the evolutionary question the most alarming there.

Sure, sure, religion vs. science, whatever. I don't think believing in Creationism is going to be a direct cause of potential harm to our species in the near future.

Failure to understand the differences between viruses and bacteria, and the ineffectuality of antibiotics against viruses is what makes people nag doctors until they get proscribed antibiotics for their cold, though. And it's what causes people to go antibacterial soap and hand sanitizer-crazy during flu season. And that ****'s going to start spitting out superbugs any second now.

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So one of the articles referenced in this thread mentioned Americans being fascinated by science, and wanting to learn more about it.

This is a lie, and I have to credit Kaffis for the epiphany.

Americans are not interested in science, they are interested in magic. Arthur C. Clarke once said that suitably advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, and we have reached the point where the divide in American society is that vast. The typical citizen is so underinformed compared to what we have discovered that science is just another word for magic to them.

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Semantics aside, I think we can all agree that the reason 75% of US citizens don't know that the Earth/Terra doesn't revolve around/orbit the Sun/Sol has nothing at all to do with the distinctions that any of you are trying to draw. Are you guys all Jeff Albertson?

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Using google translate, since I never took Spanish, there should be one saying: expresar 15 límite de elementos 15 es entonces muchos ;) Otherwise, it's not going to do much good.


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Gaea and Uranus had the Titans. Theia and Hyperion had Helios. Everybody knows that the sun does not orbit Earth or Earth orbits the sun. It is Helios, or Sol in Roman, who rides his golden chariot across the sky, pulled by his fiery steeds. All hail Helios for our sun ! :P LOL

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Gaea and Uranus had the Titans. Theia and Hyperion had Helios. Everybody knows that the sun does not orbit Earth or Earth orbits the sun. It is Helios, or Sol in Roman, who rides his golden chariot across the sky, pulled by his fiery steeds. All hail Helios for our sun ! :P LOL

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Gaea and Uranus had the Titans. Theia and Hyperion had Helios. Everybody knows that the sun does not orbit Earth or Earth orbits the sun. It is Helios, or Sol in Roman, who rides his golden chariot across the sky, pulled by his fiery steeds. All hail Helios for our sun ! :P LOL

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Was this a scientific poll?


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Using google translate, since I never took Spanish, there should be one saying: expresar 15 límite de elementos 15 es entonces muchos ;) Otherwise, it's not going to do much good.


I'm not sure how good that is in terms of formal spanish grammar, but in "everyday Tex Mex Spanish" it should probably be more like "15 Cosas! No mas! 15 es esto mucho, pendejo! <insert picture of hands here>"

Putting "15 es entonces muchos" back into google translate and putting it back into Spanish reveals that it becomes "15 is thus much". Usually, "entonces" is used as "then" or "so"; I didn't know it could work as "thus" but that's the danger of google translate; it tends to give highly formalized results that aren't how everyday people talk. I used to use it a lot to translate formal interview questions into Spanish, and then ask them, but I eventually resigned myself to having to just rephrase it and ask it again in everyday terms because the aliens didn't understand the questions in formal Spanish.

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Was this a scientific poll?


Since statistics have been given (2,200 tested, 26% retarded), the only possible answer to this is yes.


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"Go around"

As vague as that is I would answer it with yes.

It doesn't orbit it but it does "go around" it.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Was this a scientific poll?


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The average American scores 6.5 correct answers in response to these 9 questions covering basic physical and biological science, according to the results of the 2012 General Social Survey, conducted by the National Opinion Research Center


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The General Social Survey (GSS) is a sociological survey used to collect data on demographic characteristics and attitudes of residents of the United States. The survey is conducted face-to-face with an in-person interview by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago, of adults (18+) in randomly selected households. The survey was conducted every year from 1972 to 1994 (except in 1979, 1981, and 1992). Since 1994, it has been conducted every other year. The survey takes about 90 minutes to administer. As of 2010 28 national samples with 55,087 respondents and 5,417 variables had been collected. The data collected about this survey includes both demographic information and respondent's opinions on matters ranging from government spending to the state of race relations to the existence and nature of God. Because of the wide range of topics covered, and the comprehensive gathering of demographic information, survey results allow social scientists to correlate demographic factors like age, race, gender, and urban/rural upbringing with beliefs, and thereby determine whether, for example, an average middle-aged black male respondent would be more or less likely to move to a different U.S. state for economic reasons than a similarly situated white female respondent; or whether a highly educated person with a rural upbringing is more likely to believe in a transcendent God than a person with an urban upbringing and only a high-school education.

GSS results are freely made available to interested parties over the internet, and are widely used in sociological research. The data are generally available in formats designed for statistical programs (e.g., R/SAS/SPSS/Stata).

The GSS was recently linked to the National Death Index. This freely available dataset allows researchers to explore the association between variables in the General Social Survey and human longevity. For instance, it is possible to explore the association between happiness and life expectancy.[1] The dataset and codebook are available for download by the public.


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Anyone well versed enough in physics to have a rough idea how the center of mass of a system interacts with the system's rotation is also aware what the question is getting at. That is to say, whether a geocentric or heliocentric model is more accurate. The number of such people who will then answer that the earth does not revolve around the sun just to be nitpicky is vanishingly small. Particularly if it is a written true/false or multiple choice quiz, and therefore there is no one to witness how clever you are for making the fine distinction regarding the barycenter of the solar system.

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As vague as that is I would answer it with yes.


The way the question is asked does not allow for a yes or no answer. The people that got the question wrong would have literally needed to say, "the Sun goes around the Earth" explicitly or "the second one."


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The number of such people who will then answer that the earth does not revolve around the sun just to be nitpicky is vanishingly small. Particularly if it is a written true/false or multiple choice quiz, and therefore there is no one to witness how clever you are for making the fine distinction...

True story: This was me in the 2nd grade. It's why I didn't get moved to the magnet school 'till 4th grade, after the next round of tests. My 3rd grade teacher pulled me aside before I took the G/T test the second time and told me, "Now, Scott, answer the questions like a normal kid would."

This probably doesn't surprise anybody here.

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Lenas wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Was this a scientific poll?


Since statistics have been given (2,200 tested, 26% retarded), the only possible answer to this is yes.


sorry, it was a poll on science. /sucks at humor


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This seems appropriate for this thread...

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^ Best part is her two other ***** friends that "liked" her response to the correction.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_ ... 8vision%29

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Winer et al. (2002) have found recent evidence that as many as 50% of American college students believe in emission theory.
[Emission theory being the idea that eyes emit light and the bounceback is what allows us to see]


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Oh wow thats what the Egyptians thought.

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