The Glade 4.0

Bull. You'd know Huckabee would be the one attacked. He gave a full explanation for what happened, including that officials said the sentence given was excessive for the crimes he'd been found guilty of at that time.

Funny it's not mentioned that the guy was out on bail of 15 grand after being charged with rape of a 12 year old (as well as another crime)in your post, Talya. The court system very well failed. But when you have an agenda, I suppose it's easy to ignore all that and go after the target you really want, isn't it.

Huckabee manned up and explained what happened. Finding the right target would be my suggestion.

Huckabee’s penchant for listening to appeals from prisoners who had found Jesus and repented became an issue briefly during Huckabee’s 2008 presidential bid, when questions arose about his role in approving the release of a convicted rapist, Wayne Dumond, who went on to rape again, and to murder that victim. Huckabee tried to shift blame to the parole board, but his fingerprints were all over the release.

As governor, Huckabee granted more than 1,000 clemencies during 10 years in office, more than double the number granted by his three predecessors over 17 years, and more than in six neighboring states combined. That’s a lot of forgiveness.
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Being governor is one of the better preparations for running for president. Granting parole is one of the worst.

Story after story ran about Texas Governor George W. Bush being the killingest chief executive in the country. He rejected the bid for clemency by Karla Faye Tucker, who became the first woman put to death in Texas since 1863. Among Republicans, 80 percent of whom support the death penalty, leading the country in executions was a feather in Bush’s cap.

Huckabee started a process that would result in him being eligible for parole. If not for Huckabee, he'd never have been eligible. It's pretty simple.

I don't think so.. based on what I'm hearing on the local news, this guy was a total loon. He told either friends or family members (the source wasn't made clear on the local broadcast) that they should watch the news the next morning.. this the day before he killed the 4 cops.

First and foremost, he should NOT have been on the streets. The justice/court systems failed miserably on multiple counts to properly handle this guy.

Besides having a lifetime criminal history starting at having a 100 year plus sentence in Arkansas when he was 16 years old, more recently, he had been accused of raping a 12yo female family member, and was out on $15k bond. I seriously question the judgement of those individuals who recommended and approved that bail. All of them should be disbarred.

It is all very depressing....

I wonder if people would be defending Obama if someone he pardoned had done the same thing. Or if a terrorist were to be found not guilty, walk, and then kill people. I somehow think the generous attitude would not cut both ways.

Huckabee started a process that would result in him being eligible for parole. If not for Huckabee, he'd never have been eligible. It's pretty simple.

My position is the negative; namely that the phenomenon you are claiming exist, have no evidence supporting them. How exactly would I provide supporting evidence for the lack of evidence for your positions, other than to point out the fact that you have none?

Actually number 3 is by far the most likely.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

What I find interesting is that Huckabee had to know the risks in what he was doing. He granted clemency to over 1,700 serious felons. Surely he understood that this would eventually backfire on him. If you let out that many felons eventually one of them is going to snap.

Your stated position is not the negative. As quoted above, you have stated your position with no evidence or authority of any sort.

So, as stated earlier, I see no support for yours.

E-mails show Washington state battled to keep Clemmons in custody
Documents released Tuesday show that a wide variety of state and local officials viewed Maurice Clemmons as a dangerous man, and wanted desperately to keep him in custody. But Washington officials encountered resistance from an unlikely source — their correctional colleagues in Arkansas.

By Jonathan Martin, Jim Brunner and Ken Armstrong
Seattle Times staff reporters

When Maurice Clemmons, the man suspected of killing four Lakewood police officers, walked free from a Pierce County jail last week, it wasn't for lack of effort on the part of Washington officials to keep him behind bars.

Documents released Tuesday show that a wide variety of state and local officials — everyone from prosecutors to sheriff's deputies to corrections officers — viewed Clemmons as a dangerous man, and wanted desperately to keep him in custody.

But Washington officials encountered resistance from an unlikely source — their correctional colleagues in Arkansas. The acrimony has since become so intense, according to Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer, that if the two states were adjacent a "border war" would break out.

The dispute now centers on whether a warrant issued by Arkansas in October would have allowed Washington authorities to prevent Clemmons' release from the Pierce County Jail six days before the shootings occurred. Arkansas says yes. Washington says no.

Clemmons, 37, was accused of killing the four police officers Sunday. On Tuesday, a Seattle police officer encountered and killed Clemmons.

The tension between the two states started in July and is captured in a round of e-mail exchanges that show just how frustrated Washington officials became with their Arkansas counterparts.

Clemmons was arrested in Washington on July 1. The following day he was formally charged with second-degree rape of a child — the eighth felony charge filed against him in Washington this year alone. All eight of those charges traced to a spree of violence in May and were still pending against Clemmons while the two states tangled over how to deal with him.

Arkansas had an interest in Clemmons because he remained on parole in that state. Convicted of at least five felony charges, Clemmons served more than 10 years in Arkansas' prison system before being released in 2004 and moving to Washington.

When Clemmons landed in trouble in May 2009, Arkansas issued a warrant for violating the conditions of his parole. This warrant, if enforced, would have allowed Washington to keep Clemmons in jail without chance of posting bond.

But on July 16, an Arkansas official notified the Washington State Department of Corrections (DOC) that Arkansas was rescinding its warrant.

Marjorie Owens, a Washington DOC administrator, wrote a blistering response on July 23, saying Arkansas' decision appeared to violate the Interstate Compact for Adult Offender Supervision (ICAOS), an agreement governing how states treat one another's offenders who are on supervision.

"I'm concerned that you have no problem releasing your offender into our community, based on his behavior," she wrote. "I thought ICAOS was all about community safety."

Owens also wrote: "Hopefully the offender will not get out on bail."

On Aug. 5, an Arkansas parole official named Linda Strong sent a terse reply: "The warrant was rescinded. When the pending charges are adjudicated we will reconsider the case."

A document released by Arkansas Tuesday says the warrant "was recalled at the request of [Arkansas Department of Community Correction] director G. David Guntharp after conversations he had with the offender's wife and mother." But Guntharp, in an interview, said he does not recall discussing the matter with Clemmons' family. Clemmons' mother died years ago.

Rhonda Sharp, a spokeswoman for Guntharp, said Arkansas retracted the warrant because the warrant labeled Clemmons an "absconder" — meaning he had fled or was avoiding supervision. But Arkansas received a letter from Clemmons' defense attorney contradicting that and claiming the Pierce County charges "may be dropped."

Arkansas' decision baffled Washington officials. Seeking help, they consulted the Washington State Attorney General's Office and the national office that oversees the interstate compact. The latter office said Arkansas "should not have quashed their warrant," an internal e-mail between Washington DOC employees says. One administrator for the Washington DOC called the case a "major malfunction" and suggested ways "to work 'around' Arkansas on this one."

Washington's alarm could be traced, in part, to concerns about the danger Clemmons posed. A Pierce County prosecutor worried Clemmons "might continue to make contact" with children he was accused of molesting.

A Pierce County sheriff's detective told a corrections officer "it would not be easy" if DOC officers or sheriff's deputies had to arrest Clemmons again. "She said Mr. Clemmons did not like them," an e-mail says.

The records released Tuesday show that from July until November, Clemmons was in and out of jail. At one point, a DOC employee wrote an e-mail saying: "I was going to serve Offender today only to find out he bailed out!"

On Tuesday, Washington's top prison official blasted Arkansas.

When the Washington DOC initially asked for — and got — a nationwide fugitive warrant from Arkansas in May, the Washington DOC closed the case, ending its oversight of Clemmons. The DOC believed Clemmons would now be Arkansas' responsibility.

"At that point, he's a problem for the state of Arkansas," Washington DOC Secretary Eldon Vail said. "If he's picked up, he's going back."

But when Arkansas rescinded its warrant, that left DOC temporarily without supervision on a man it considered dangerous. Vail said if the Washington and Arkansas positions were reversed, Washington would have taken Clemmons back. Last year, Washington retook 986 felons from other states, Vail said.

"We do this every day," he said.

Vail said the Clemmons case was his worst experience with another state in his 33 years with the Washington DOC: "[Gov. Chris Gregoire's] question to me about this case is a good one: 'Why would we ever take anyone from Arkansas in the future?' I haven't gotten back to her."

On Oct. 2, after Washington DOC officials pleaded anew with Arkansas, Arkansas issued a second warrant. But the two states differ on whether the warrant could be enforced in Washington state. Arkansas says the second warrant was just as good as the first.

"It is a valid warrant," Sharp said. "It is a warrant that differs little, if at all, from the first."

But Scott Blonien, an in-house attorney for Washington DOC, said two elements show Arkansas did not intend to enforce the Oct. 2 warrant. A cover sheet attached to it left unchecked a box that reads: "Warrant issued. Keep us apprised of offender's availability for retaking," a term that means sending an offender home. The May 28 warrant had that box checked.

And, unlike the May 28 warrant, the second warrant was not entered into the National Crime Information Center (NCIC), a law-enforcement database. Interstate compact guidelines appear to require that the state issuing a warrant — Arkansas, in this case — must enter the warrant into NCIC in order to make it enforceable.

Pierce County employees checked the NCIC twice and found no warrants for Clemmons, a county official said.

Clemmons posted $190,000 bail on Nov. 23 and walked out of the Pierce County Jail.

Staff writers Christine Clarridge, Susan Kelleher and Maureen O'Hagan contributed to this report.

Jonathan Martin: 206-464-2605 or jmartin@seattletimes.com; Jim Brunner: 206-515-5628 or jbrunner@seattletimes.com.