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Author:  Sam [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Wolf Blitzer, why?

Unlike Glen Beck, the tard who claimed it was a "conspiracy", I think Wolf is just a dumbass who assumed too much. Very stupid to ask this kinda question, not once, but twice. Something I haven't seen much of from regular people interviewed on national TV before. She handled it pretty well imho. Jump to 1m13s.

Author:  Corolinth [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:54 am ]
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Well, to be fair, it's Oklahoma. I would not assume that any given individual in Oklahoma is an atheist.

Author:  Lenas [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:19 pm ]
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Definitely seemed like a safe assumption to make, especially in the face of a disaster. She did handle it well, but he did as well.

Author:  Rafael [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:29 pm ]
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I don't see what the deal is. People are **** dead, people's lives have been irreparably impacted by a force of nature and we're worried about a slight faux paus made by a reporter?

Do people who obsess with the atheism vs. religion dynamic (on both sides) go out of their way to find stuff to be offended by?

Author:  Talya [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:28 pm ]
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I see nothing offensive or controversial there.

Author:  Micheal [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:34 pm ]
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Ditto, neither seemed upset. No harm no foul.

Yeah, Oklahoma, assuming someone is a Christiam is a safe bet if you want to assume something. Best would have been tonoask at all, but he chose
To
Go
There.

Author:  FarSky [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:23 pm ]
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Micheal wrote:
Yeah, Oklahoma, assuming someone is a Christiam is a safe bet if you want to assume something. Best would have been tonoask at all, but he chose
To
Go
There.

I'm assuming you're typing from a phone, but the strange carriage return scheme makes your statement hilariously dramatic.

Author:  RangerDave [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:56 pm ]
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There's no controversy about it that I'm aware of. I think the play it got was just due to the cringe factor, particularly because Blitzer was so obviously trying to prompt a cliche moment for the cameras. At least that's how I viewed it. It reminded me of Rose Tyler trying to get Queen Victoria to say, "We are not amused," on Dr. Who:


Author:  Rorinthas [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:03 pm ]
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Talya wrote:
I see nothing offensive or controversial there.


I don't get it either. Am I missing something? He asked her if she was thankful to a higher power, she said she didn't believe it that. Wolf have every right to ask the question, and she had every right to answer as she did.

Author:  Talya [ Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:02 am ]
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Of course, if she'd lost everyone she loves, he probably would not have asked her if she blamed a higher power.

Author:  Corolinth [ Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:52 am ]
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That's a good point. In the past, religious figures have been very quick to tell us all about how storms and earthquakes have been God sending us a message for being too tolerant of sin. Why aren't we hearing about what Oklahoma did to make God so angry?

Author:  Talya [ Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:11 pm ]
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Corolinth wrote:
That's a good point. In the past, religious figures have been very quick to tell us all about how storms and earthquakes have been God sending us a message for being too tolerant of sin. Why aren't we hearing about what Oklahoma did to make God so angry?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 219AAep7WJ

Author:  Rorinthas [ Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:34 pm ]
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It could be. God allows bad things to happen to good people to a good end (The entire book of Job, Romans 8).

God has also historically used storms/drought to punish nations corporately.

Additionally bad things happen because of sin in general.

However I don't think we usually get to know which the case is. It's not for me or any other Christian to say which is applicable in any given event.

Author:  Jasmy [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:15 am ]
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I respect your beliefs Rori, however in my opinion, it's just Mother Nature doing what she does best. I am just glad I don't live in Tornado Alley. I wish my son and my stepson and his family didn't live there, but that's their choice. Hopefully, my son will be moving back to California now that he has graduated from MTSU ( :) ), although he might be headed to NYC. :(.

Author:  Lenas [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:36 am ]
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If no one lived in tornado alley we would all immediately be more pious people because less of us would be affected by natural disaster.

Author:  Sam [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:17 am ]
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Lenas wrote:
If no one lived in tornado alley we would all immediately be more pious people because less of us would be affected by natural disaster.

:lol:
WUT?

Author:  Sam [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:27 am ]
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Rorinthas wrote:
It could be. God allows bad things to happen to good people to a good end (The entire book of Job, Romans 8).

God has also historically used storms/drought to punish nations corporately.

Additionally bad things happen because of sin in general.

However I don't think we usually get to know which the case is. It's not for me or any other Christian to say which is applicable in any given event.

Sorry, but when I read something like this, all I can do is..... :derp:

Author:  Wwen [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:51 am ]
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Boring. Why didn't you warn me I was going to wait a minute to be bored. OH MAN! This just in, "ATHEIST SAVED BY GOD!" Lulz :roll:

Author:  Rorinthas [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:41 am ]
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You are entitled to your opinion, Sam. The point I'm trying to make is: I don't know, and I don't feel comfortable saying one way or the other. I also think that anyone outside the situation who says they've got an inside line on which way it is is being presumptuous. I try to be eloquent and polite about what I believe. I'm just a layman. if I fail at that, I'm sorry.

Author:  Rorinthas [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:51 am ]
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Jasmy wrote:
I respect your beliefs Rori, however in my opinion, it's just Mother Nature doing what she does best. I am just glad I don't live in Tornado Alley. I wish my son and my stepson and his family didn't live there, but that's their choice. Hopefully, my son will be moving back to California now that he has graduated from MTSU ( :) ), although he might be headed to NYC. :(.


Most Likely. God makes the rain to fall where it normally will as to the natural laws that govern such things. We had a watch near here a few nights ago. all we got is the rain. Again its not something I can say with absolute certainly. I don't claim to have an inside view of such things.

I guess what I was getting into was the whole "Why does God allow bad weather to happen?" thing.

Author:  Wwen [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:26 am ]
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Maybe God doesn't care that much?

Author:  Diamondeye [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:50 am ]
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God certainly does care, but He also pretty much quit using the methods of the early Old Testament (at the latest) when Christ appeared. The idea that God is still engaging in dealing with nations as collective groups doesn't make a whole lot of sense in light of the events of the later Old Testament, and absolutely no sense in light of the New Testament. In fact, the "nations" of the Old Testament bear only a passing resemblance to the nation-state as understood since the Peace of Westphalia - 1750 years since Christ's time made for a lot of change in political models, and we can tack another 250+ years on top of that to our time.

As for why people sometimes engage in this thinking that natural disasters (or any other bad event) is a punishment aimed at someone, that's an indirect result of the Protestant doctrines of Calvin and Luther, and the intervening history, both of the church and of the world in general. When you have tons of small churches that are only loosely (at best) connected into denominations, and can endlessly split over even the most minor disagreements, inevitably some of them are simply going to get ideas that are rather questionable. Those ideas aren't counterbalanced by having to account for the opinions of a larger denomination, or by dissenting voices within because in either case, dissenting voices just split off in one way or another. It's the same reason they split over re-paving the parking lot.

Author:  Rorinthas [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:51 pm ]
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I do concur that the New Testament Focus is on individuals rather than groups.

Author:  Sam [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:08 pm ]
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Okay, since we are heading off topic, I'm just gonna add I think the delusion is mighty thick in those two posts. Nothing to back it up other than a book and some "faith". Meanwhile, we can understand why these storms form, and can track them with technology. I don't see how any logically thinking person could believe "God done it" in this day and time.

Author:  Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:09 pm ]
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Sam wrote:
Okay, since we are heading off topic, I'm just gonna add I think the delusion is mighty thick in those two posts. Nothing to back it up other than a book and some "faith". Meanwhile, we can understand why these storms form, and can track them with technology. I don't see how any logically thinking person could believe "God done it" in this day and time.


So?

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