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YIANNIS ANTONIADES: From even 17,500 feet, the white thing that you see flying around is a bird.

NARRATOR: ARGUS streams live to the ground and also stores everything, a million terabytes of video a day, which is the equivalent of 5,000 hours of high definition footage.

YIANNIS ANTONIADES: So you can go back and say, "I would like to see what happened at this particular location three days, two hours, four minutes ago." And it would actually show you exactly what happened as if you were watching it live.

NARRATOR: To create the world's highest definition camera, Antoniades needed to design a new imaging chip, but DARPA, the project's funder, wanted to move fast and keep costs down, so

YIANNIS ANTONIADES: Inside this cell phone we find a tiny little camera. So, if you were to take off the majority of it, you'd be left with an imaging chip. If you were to take 368 of these and make a big mosaic out of them and start shooting images, now you have ARGUS.

NARRATOR: Unlike the Predator camera that limits field of view, ARGUS melds together video from each of its 368 chips, to create a 1.8-billion-pixel video stream. This makes it possible to zoom in and still see tremendous detail.

Whether ARGUS has been deployed in the field is classified.

YIANNIS ANTONIADES: I'm not at liberty to discuss plans with the government, but if we had our choice, we would like ARGUS to be over the same area 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. That's not very easily achievable with manned platforms. This is where U.A.V.s come in, and they're absolutely the perfect platform.

NARRATOR: ARGUS may be mounted on an armed U.A.V. like the Predator, a long-range platform like the giant Global Hawk, or a development craft, called the Solar Eagle that may someday stay aloft for years at a time.

MISSY CUMMINGS: The U.S. Air Force, right now, has the ability to archive every single video that comes off of every single U.A.V. We're moving to an increasingly electronic society, where our movements are going to be tracked.

Author:	Midgen [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:00 pm ]
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Below is an excerpt from a video I randomly found on Netflix last night called "NOVA: Rise of the Drones". It was made in 2013. Nothing in that video really surprised me..... Except this... Keep in mind. This is the unclassified part of it, that DARPA is willing to let them talk about. As scary as that video is, for me, the most impressive part, is that they are transmitting (and storing) a MILLION terabytes of data per day, from 17500 feet. Edit: Fixed typo - the video claims a million terabytes, not teraBITS

Author:	shuyung [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:22 pm ]
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I have a couple of takeaways from that. Number one, people don't know what an Exabyte is, and number two, they're probably lying.

Author:	Khross [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:50 pm ]
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10^18 bytes or 1 billion gigabytes or 1 million terabytes or 1000 petabytes ... That's a stupidly huge amount of information that I have trouble wrapping my head around.

Author:	shuyung [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:07 pm ]
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By way of comparison, YouTube receives something like 1 PB (1000 TB) of data per day. If I've done the math right, assuming all max-resolution HD video files, and using YouTube's most recent statistic of 100 hours of video uploaded per minute. They are claiming, then, that they are the equivalent of 1000 YouTubes.

Author:	Khross [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:12 pm ]
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shuyung wrote: By way of comparison, YouTube receives something like 1 PB (1000 TB) of data per day. If I've done the math right, assuming all max-resolution HD video files, and using YouTube's most recent statistic of 100 hours of video uploaded per minute. They are claiming, then, that they are the equivalent of 1000 YouTubes. Hence, they are probably lying. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Author:	Midgen [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:47 pm ]
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When I first watched the video on Netflix, I wasn't paying close attention, and thought he said 100 Terabytes a day, and thought that was pretty astonishing. While showing it to a friend at work, I realized he said 1 MILLION. That... is a lot... Here is a link to the actual NOVA Episode and the transcript. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/r ... rones.html And a quote from the transcript, just for fun... PBS NOVA: Rise of the Drones wrote: MISSY CUMMINGS: The U.S. Air Force, right now, has the ability to archive every single video that comes off of every single U.A.V. We're moving to an increasingly electronic society, where our movements are going to be tracked.

Author:	Lex Luthor [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:45 pm ]
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Sounds like they're doing a good job spending taxpayers' money on important things...

Author:	Talya [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:54 am ]
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in 2007, the total data storage capacity in the entire world was estimated at 295 Exabytes, going up conservatively at 50% per year. If that has held up, the approximate storage capacity of the world in 2014 is ~5000 Exabytes (or 5 Zettabytes.) When you think about that, there's not really enough storage space in the world for a single drone to be storing 1 Exabyte of peaceful Quantico scenery daily.

Author:	Midgen [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:25 am ]
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More fun with math... They don't really give enough information to be exact, but based on what I'm seeing in this transcript, it seems pretty obvious they are over stating the data and storage capabilties... NOVA: Rise of the Drones wrote: YIANNIS ANTONIADES: From even 17,500 feet, the white thing that you see flying around is a bird. NARRATOR: ARGUS streams live to the ground and also stores everything, a million terabytes of video a day, which is the equivalent of 5,000 hours of high definition footage. YIANNIS ANTONIADES: So you can go back and say, "I would like to see what happened at this particular location three days, two hours, four minutes ago." And it would actually show you exactly what happened as if you were watching it live. NARRATOR: To create the world's highest definition camera, Antoniades needed to design a new imaging chip, but DARPA, the project's funder, wanted to move fast and keep costs down, so YIANNIS ANTONIADES: Inside this cell phone we find a tiny little camera. So, if you were to take off the majority of it, you'd be left with an imaging chip. If you were to take 368 of these and make a big mosaic out of them and start shooting images, now you have ARGUS. NARRATOR: Unlike the Predator camera that limits field of view, ARGUS melds together video from each of its 368 chips, to create a 1.8-billion-pixel video stream. This makes it possible to zoom in and still see tremendous detail. Whether ARGUS has been deployed in the field is classified. YIANNIS ANTONIADES: I'm not at liberty to discuss plans with the government, but if we had our choice, we would like ARGUS to be over the same area 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. That's not very easily achievable with manned platforms. This is where U.A.V.s come in, and they're absolutely the perfect platform. NARRATOR: ARGUS may be mounted on an armed U.A.V. like the Predator, a long-range platform like the giant Global Hawk, or a development craft, called the Solar Eagle that may someday stay aloft for years at a time. MISSY CUMMINGS: The U.S. Air Force, right now, has the ability to archive every single video that comes off of every single U.A.V. We're moving to an increasingly electronic society, where our movements are going to be tracked.

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