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| Author: | Micheal [ Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Open Carry at the RNC |
Hey with all those armed patriots there what could possibly go wrong? Yes, I said it. So, what do you all think about it? |
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| Author: | Talya [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:50 am ] |
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I know nothing about this. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:23 am ] |
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I think liberals are too scared of omfg gunz, and conservatives are too keen on dickwaving. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry at the RNC |
Micheal wrote: Hey with all those armed patriots there what could possibly go wrong? Yes, I said it. So, what do you all think about it? Most likely, nothing will go wrong. Because contrary to popular belief, gun-carriers do not take any and every opportunity to shoot up their surroundings. |
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| Author: | Micheal [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:19 pm ] |
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Taly, http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /82289342/ More than 25,000 people have signed a petition to allow firearms inside the Republican National Convention being held in Cleveland in July. Firearms are currently not permitted inside the Quicken Loans Arena, known as "the Q," where the gathering will take place. The petition, posted Monday on Change.org, sought only 5,000 signatures but has since quintupled, topping 25,000 Saturday afternoon. It was posted by an author identified only as "N.A." from Cleveland, but the user profile appears to have been deleted from the website. It was not clear whether the person posting the petition was backing the proposal or attempting to put the party, which strongly backs gun rights, in an awkward position. A petition was posted on Change.org calling for Open A petition was posted on Change.org calling for Open Carry at the Qucken Loan Arena in Cleveland for the July Republican convention. (Photo: change.org) Among the petition's five goals, it calls upon Ohio Gov. John Kasich, a candidate for the GOP presidential nomination, to mount a "concerted effort to use his executive authority to override the "gun-free zone" loophole being exploited by the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio." The name of the group purportedly behind the effort — Americans for Responsible Open Carry — does not appear anywhere else online and accepts online message only from networked supporters, the Akron Beacon Journal reported. WKYC Thousands sign petition for firearms inside Quicken Loans Arena during RNC The Ohio Republican Party said it was not aware of the petition, the Journal reported, nor was the host committee overseeing the convention, although it noted that the Secret Service, in conjunction with Cleveland, Cuyahoga County and state and federal authorities, is handling security for the event. “They are coordinating and will be continuously refining security plans leading up to the national convention,” said Alee Lockman, a spokesperson for the Republican National Convention, the Journal says. In 2012, firearms were banned by the Secret Service at the Republican convention in Tampa. The Journal says the National Rifle Association declined to comment on the petition. The petition states: This is a direct affront to the Second Amendment and puts all attendees at risk. As the National Rifle Association has made clear, "gun-free zones" such as the Quicken Loans Arena are "the worst and most dangerous of all lies." The NRA, our leading defender of gun rights, has also correctly pointed out that "gun free zones... tell every insane killer in America... (the) safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk." The petition also claims that forcing attendees to leave firearms at home puts everyone in attendance at risk. It also notes the convention could be a potential target for an attack. Without the right to protect themselves, those at the Quicken Loans Arena will be sitting ducks, utterly helpless against evil-doers, criminals or others who wish to threaten the American way of life. |
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| Author: | Corolinth [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:38 pm ] |
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Meanwhile, the rest of us need to be terrified about the presence of zomg gunz at a convention we aren't going to because everyone present is a racist republican racist Trump supporting racist ******* that hates teh gayz0rz. |
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| Author: | Rorinthas [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:19 pm ] |
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Seems like a distraction. What is the record of the carry status of previous venues? The time to deal with it would have been during the site selection process I would think. |
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| Author: | Kairtane [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:51 pm ] |
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This is probably more about being able to carry a gun between where you are parked and the arena. |
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| Author: | FarSky [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:25 am ] |
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I really think this is a self-handling issue. Either they allow open-carry and no one does anything, at which point yay, responsible gun ownership, or they allow open-carry and the violence that's erupted at recent Trump rallies graduates into gun violence against the people championing open-carry in the first place. Sunrise, sunset. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:24 am ] |
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FarSky wrote: I really think this is a self-handling issue. Either they allow open-carry and no one does anything, at which point yay, responsible gun ownership, or they allow open-carry and the violence that's erupted at recent Trump rallies graduates into gun violence against the people championing open-carry in the first place. Sunrise, sunset. That violence is likely to erupt regardless of whether they allow open, concealed, or no carry at all, because Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders supporters will be happy to provide it. Note the dearth of Republicans causing problems at Clinton and Sanders rallies, whereas BLM is more than happy to turn on Bernie, or terrorize students in campus libraries while loudly wondering why the "terrorism" they experience as a result of their incoherent dissatisfaction is the same as, say, almost 200 people getting killed by terrorists. In fact, carry of any kind at the Republican convention is probably unwise simply because we can virtually guarantee there will be leftists there trying to provoke a shooting of one of them just to they can prove Guns Are Bad. Sort of like showing up at a Trump rally in a ku klux klan outfit, then pretending its because Trump supporters are violent when you get punched out by a black man. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:34 am ] |
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It seems like a silly discussion. My understanding is that all conventions these days are secured by the secret service. It's a private event, so there's no issue with restricting freedoms, either by disallowing open carry or by disallowing protestors. My assumption is that the Secret Service has their own protocols that you have to follow if you want them to secure you or your site. |
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| Author: | Kaffis Mark V [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:45 am ] |
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Arathain Kelvar wrote: It seems like a silly discussion. My understanding is that all conventions these days are secured by the secret service. It's a private event, so there's no issue with restricting freedoms, either by disallowing open carry or by disallowing protestors. My assumption is that the Secret Service has their own protocols that you have to follow if you want them to secure you or your site. This. It's kind of hard to suggest that forbidding open carry puts attendees at risk because they're secured by the Secret Service, the group founded to secure our President, instead. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:32 pm ] |
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Kaffis Mark V wrote: Arathain Kelvar wrote: It seems like a silly discussion. My understanding is that all conventions these days are secured by the secret service. It's a private event, so there's no issue with restricting freedoms, either by disallowing open carry or by disallowing protestors. My assumption is that the Secret Service has their own protocols that you have to follow if you want them to secure you or your site. This. It's kind of hard to suggest that forbidding open carry puts attendees at risk because they're secured by the Secret Service, the group founded to secure our President, instead. Any violence is likely to occur on the street outside. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry at the RNC |
Secret Service says no. Which all the gun rights people should be thankful for. Any shooting would only end in propaganda for the left. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:47 pm ] |
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LOL Of course the SS said no. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:56 pm ] |
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Arathain Kelvar wrote: LOL Of course the SS said no. That's ok. We can still have the violence. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry at the RNC |
That seems a given if there are gonna be any Trump supporters there. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry at the RNC |
Lenas wrote: That seems a given if there are gonna be any Trump supporters there. Because we had exactly 2 Trump supporters do anything violent; 1 of them being a 78-year-old man who had all appearances of being senile and 1 who was a black man who spotted someone in a KKK costume. While neither is excusable, they're highly individualized instances, Trump's rhetoric notwithstanding. Furthermore, the criticism of Trump is pretty hypocritical seeing as its Bernie Sanders supporters, BLM, and George Soros's paid provocateurs showing up and causing a ruckus to provoke people, and try to steal microphones Trump is paying for. Of course, they did it to Bernie Sanders too, and on college campuses nationwide not to mention on-and-off violent rioting over largely imaginary racial issues for the last 2 years. Trump supporters can't be excused for punching anyone, but they certainly can be excused for wondering why its so abhorrent when 2 people get punched out, but students studying in a library can be harassed by BLM protestors or angry crowds can burn buildings because they're mad that their fabricated victim of "racial profiling" turned out to be a violent thug. Trump is a product of 2 things - the myopia of the Republicans and the hypocrisy of the left, and the later is entirely the cause of any violence at his rallies. Trump supporters are not showing up at anyone else's rallies causing trouble. |
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| Author: | Lenas [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry at the RNC |
Diamondeye wrote: Because we had exactly 2 Trump supporters do anything violent; 1 of them being a 78-year-old man who had all appearances of being senile and 1 who was a black man who spotted someone in a KKK costume. While neither is excusable, they're highly individualized instances, Trump's rhetoric notwithstanding. Is an American flag as a shirt somehow now a KKK costume? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-suppo ... air-force/ Is the guy clapping in the background as someone gets punched and stomped somehow misunderstood? What about the bunch of people that start cheering? |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry at the RNC |
Lenas wrote: Is an American flag as a shirt somehow now a KKK costume? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-suppo ... air-force/ His companion was wearing a KKK hat, my mistake. I guess the protestor didn't want to hit a woman. Quote: Is the guy clapping in the background as someone gets punched and stomped somehow misunderstood? What about the bunch of people that start cheering? Probably they were. Those are normal and expected behavior at a political rally. Even if they were cheering at someone getting punched, they weren't joining in - and participation-less approval of violence in public is common. Ask any man whose wife or girlfriend ever hit him in public. Passersby just assume "he must have done something to deserve it". So let's dispense with this canard about Trump supporters being violent. Again, it's not them showing up at other people's rallies, or on college campuses terrorizing the students, or burning down buildings. Fingers stuck in ears are not going to change the fact that the constant excuses made for anyone that can claim some victim status who decides to engage in violent behavior are one of the many factors driving Trump to the top. |
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| Author: | Arathain Kelvar [ Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:56 pm ] |
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Trump's campaign manager just got charged with battery. |
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| Author: | TheRiov [ Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:09 pm ] |
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It won't stick. There isn't enough on that video. I doubt he did anything worth anyone's time. |
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| Author: | Serienya [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:42 pm ] |
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Probably true, but it still shows that he lied about touching her. He sounds like a real winner. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:29 pm ] |
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Serienya wrote: Probably true, but it still shows that he lied about touching her. He sounds like a real winner. Pretty sure lying regularly is a requirement to be a campaign manager. |
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| Author: | Serienya [ Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:53 pm ] |
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Diamondeye wrote: Serienya wrote: Probably true, but it still shows that he lied about touching her. He sounds like a real winner. Pretty sure lying regularly is a requirement to be a campaign manager. Pretty sure you're right. The OC thing made me go look up reciprocity in OH, as I had been wondering how delegates from all over were going to be able to bring their guns in from out of state if OC was allowed. |
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