Trump et al vs administrative state

Will one crumble.
Will they lock into each other unmoving and achieve a sort of parity?
Will the friction create heat and ignite a fire?

Either way the administrative state spends energy attacking it's own creation.

This dance being danced gives everyone what they want. I don't expect it to change any time soon.

Well, except for the citizenry that would much prefer to have a functional government working for the betterment of society.

But **** those people right?

Well, except for the citizenry that would much prefer to have a functional government working for the betterment of society.

But **** those people right?

Evidently. You keep saying **** those people every time you post.

Well, it does seem to be y'all's default position on anyone not a rich, white male. So there's precedent.

It isn't just rich white males. Its anyone who thinks they should be a rich white male and is taking the attitude before achieving the goal.

Similar reason as why many thousands of poor southern men fought the people who wanted to end slavery, even though slavery was keeping them poorly paid wage slaves.

Is it also a similar reason to why people make wildly oversimplified historical analogies? Do you know what desertion rates were like in the Confederacy? Poor whites in the South largely did not want to be fighting, they just had to.

Anyhow, the attitude you and Mus are arguing against doesn't really exist. It's a caricature you tell yourself exists so you can pretend you care more about your fellow man than those you disagree with.

Here's a clue - you **** don't. The hate you think exists is a security blanket you use to avoid admitting that the victim groups you think exist are morally no better than their oppressors. They're just as shitty people, just as entitled, and just as dishonest, they just have less money to do it with.

I have no idea why it is that way,

speaking of echo chambers, this was fun http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 23441.html

It's not just rich, or white, or male. It's everybody. Liberals KNOW conservatives don't care about anyone but themselves, down in their bones they know it.

When a conservative says they think people shouldn't rely on the government to take care of them and they should develop self reliance, a liberal hears "**** those that can't take care of themselves". "We need strong borders" = "**** immigrants", "less regulations" = "**** the environment", "taxes should be lower" = "**** the poor".

I have no idea why it is that way, but that's the only explanation that makes sense to me.

Elmarnieh, what you have done there is a phenomenon I am well aware of. It is called Transferance.

Quick steal of definition - Transference is a phenomenon characterized by unconscious redirection of feelings from one person to another. One definition of transference is "the inappropriate repetition in the present of a relationship that was important in a person's childhood".

In this case you are transferring the conservatives inner knowledge that they are not good people to their opponents. They find ways to excuse their heartlessness to others by directing blame at the ones who try to help.

Nice try. You are falling into that trap.

I'm not saying all progressives are angels, but many are trying to help their fellow humans. Tearing at that because not all programs work well, and not all progressives are sincere is a weak argument.

I'm not saying all progressives are angels, but many are trying to help their fellow humans. Tearing at that because not all programs work well, and not all progressives are sincere is a weak argument.