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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RBG passed at the age of 87 |
Pancreatic cancer Pancreatic cancer is a scourge. I will say no more at this hour; it would be unseemly. |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:17 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: RBG passed at the age of 87 | ||
Diamondeye wrote: I will say no more at this hour; it would be unseemly. I agreed with you right up till I heard about her "dying wish". If it's true and not an obscene ploy by her granddaughter, it's a cheap political trick by a partisan hack.
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RBG passed at the age of 87 |
We don't have a hereditary nobility in this country; I fault her granddaughter for speaking about it publicly whether it was real or not. There's no obligation for the Senate to do any particular thing in any particular timeframe. "Advise and consent" is left very vague. Yes, it's politics - by design. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:33 pm ] |
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I hope that everyone in the Senate who spoke up about Obama nominating an SC Justice in 2016 is saying the same thing this time around, on both sides to be clear. If a Democrat said Obama should be allowed to appoint someone, then so should Trump and vice versa. Hypocrites should be damned. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Hopwin wrote: I hope that everyone in the Senate who spoke up about Obama nominating an SC Justice in 2016 is saying the same thing this time around, on both sides to be clear. If a Democrat said Obama should be allowed to appoint someone, then so should Trump and vice versa. Hypocrites should be damned. Hypocrisy is really about the most irrelevant charge there is in D.C. anymore. Neither side has any way out of this without being totally hypocritical. Also, I really don't care anymore. Kagan, Breyer, and Sotomayor were all vonfirmed with heavy Republican support; so was RBG herself. Sotomayor is a blatant racist who has no place on ANY court, but Republicans repeatedly surrendered in the name of comity despite the repeated Borking of every justice since Bork appointed by a Republican. As for Garland, he was spared even the slightest personal attacks, while Kavanaugh was subjected to obviously fabricated allegations of sexual assault from a woman who was clearly lying through her teeth as she testified, to say nothing of the even more absurd claims from a few other women afterwards. I really don't care how far up the Democrats' *** this gets shoved. They are planning on adding states, disbanding the electoral college, and packing the court all to get more political power at any cost and were going to do this regardless of RBG;'s lifespan. They have no regard whatsoever for any part of the First or Second Amendments; I'm just waiting for them to get started on the rest. Both sides may be hypocritical, and both sides have their faults but there is one side at fault for this, and it's the Democrats. Leftism in this country needs to be dealt with - not Liberalism, but Leftism, because these people are not liberals in any sense of the word. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:44 pm ] |
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Send em to CA, build wall there? |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Re: |
Diamondeye wrote: Both sides may be hypocritical, and both sides have their faults but there is one side at fault for this, and it's the Democrats. Leftism in this country needs to be dealt with - not Liberalism, but Leftism, because these people are not liberals in any sense of the word. Funny I feel the same way about the current batch of "Republicans". The party of small government and fiscal conservatism seems to have vanished since the Tea Party died. Trump himself is neither Republican nor Conservative. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Re: |
Hopwin wrote: Diamondeye wrote: Both sides may be hypocritical, and both sides have their faults but there is one side at fault for this, and it's the Democrats. Leftism in this country needs to be dealt with - not Liberalism, but Leftism, because these people are not liberals in any sense of the word. Funny I feel the same way about the current batch of "Republicans". The party of small government and fiscal conservatism seems to have vanished since the Tea Party died. Trump himself is neither Republican nor Conservative. They weren't before Trump either, but it's not important. Trump was nominated as a shot across the bow to the party from it's own voters. The party did not want him, but had no plan (or just a stupid plan) to get rid of him, and he basically proved everyone wrong on his chances. Whether Trump is or isn't any particular thing, he is a message to the party leaders: "We expect you to stand up to the Left, not just promise the world, then forget it as soon as you're in office to avoid getting called names by the left." The Tea Party got a lot of people into office who then could accomplish nothing even once they DID have both houses and the Presidency with the notable exception of getting Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. Granted, the TP also thought that holding the House alone was enough to force their will, but quite a lot of Republicans have been utterly spineless. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:18 pm ] |
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If someone thinks Rs are "small government" or "fiscally conservative" they are blue pilled. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Wwen wrote: If someone thinks Rs are "small government" or "fiscally conservative" they are blue pilled. They have the potential to be, though, since some of them are starting to figure out they can't just be Democrat-lite to appease a media that will hate them no matter what. It's a long road. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:00 pm ] |
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The party can change, but who wants to allow it? In the Rs defense, most people don't want small government anyway. Only freaks like some of us here (I assume Elmo is still Libertarian-esque) care about The Fed and whatever. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Wwen wrote: The party can change, but who wants to allow it? In the Rs defense, most people don't want small government anyway. Only freaks like some of us here (I assume Elmo is still Libertarian-esque) care about The Fed and whatever. Part of the problem is that there are some very different ideas out there about what "small government" is. There are plenty of people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a lot of government as long as it doesn't involve restricting personal freedom. |
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| Author: | Taskiss [ Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RBG passed at the age of 87 |
There isn't a problem, you just vote for the candidate that will come closest to implementing policy that meets whatever your vision of government is. Vote the the candidate that is more likely to shrink government and least likely to raise taxes/spend more. |
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| Author: | Hopwin [ Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:09 pm ] |
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I am a registered Republican and voted for Trump in 2016 because I believed in his outsider status and because Hillary was the most corrupt politician I had ever seen to that point in my life. But now I do not even see that Republicans stand FOR anything anymore. They seem to be pro-guns and against abortion while being pro-death-penalty. But I am not sure why they want to be in power since there is no agenda, they didn't even bother to create a platform this election, they just point at Trump as if that answers why I would vote R. I miss the days of voting conservative because it meant I was pro-life, compassionate to the poor, sick and mentally-challenged. It used to mean that you can have my tax dollars yes, but they will be spent where they belong, not wasted on pork or special interests. I remember taking pride that Republicans used to be a party of intellectuals who would argue advanced economic theories to defend tax and spending cuts. Now it is populated by people who question scientists and doctors over basic facts. Being on the right used to mean being a patriot who believed in a shining city on hill that served as a moral beacon to the world, now it is a party of fear-mongers who have cycle through scapegoats and strawmen in a never-ending fear-storm. The Republicans have lost me and they need to figure out a way to get 20+ year religious conservatives back on their side or they are in for a rough stretch. Not that anyone here cares but it is nice to get it off my chest. |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Hopwin wrote: I am a registered Republican and voted for Trump in 2016 because I believed in his outsider status and because Hillary was the most corrupt politician I had ever seen to that point in my life. But now I do not even see that Republicans stand FOR anything anymore. They seem to be pro-guns and against abortion while being pro-death-penalty. But I am not sure why they want to be in power since there is no agenda, they didn't even bother to create a platform this election, they just point at Trump as if that answers why I would vote R. I miss the days of voting conservative because it meant I was pro-life, compassionate to the poor, sick and mentally-challenged. It used to mean that you can have my tax dollars yes, but they will be spent where they belong, not wasted on pork or special interests. I remember taking pride that Republicans used to be a party of intellectuals who would argue advanced economic theories to defend tax and spending cuts. Now it is populated by people who question scientists and doctors over basic facts. Being on the right used to mean being a patriot who believed in a shining city on hill that served as a moral beacon to the world, now it is a party of fear-mongers who have cycle through scapegoats and strawmen in a never-ending fear-storm. The Republicans have lost me and they need to figure out a way to get 20+ year religious conservatives back on their side or they are in for a rough stretch. Not that anyone here cares but it is nice to get it off my chest. Fair enough. I can tell you though, that 2A plus national defense are MORE than enough to get my vote - not to mention I am looking at what the other side is in favor of now, and all the Republicans really have to do is be "not that." The Democrats are just appalling on every level. |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Wwen wrote: The party can change, but who wants to allow it? In the Rs defense, most people don't want small government anyway. Only freaks like some of us here (I assume Elmo is still Libertarian-esque) care about The Fed and whatever. Anarcho-Capitalist to be precise. Close enough though for most. |
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| Author: | Elmarnieh [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:39 pm ] |
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"Not that" is looking better and better. |
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| Author: | Screeling [ Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: |
Hopwin wrote: I miss the days of voting conservative because it meant I was pro-life, compassionate to the poor, sick and mentally-challenged. It used to mean that you can have my tax dollars yes, but they will be spent where they belong, not wasted on pork or special interests. I remember taking pride that Republicans used to be a party of intellectuals who would argue advanced economic theories to defend tax and spending cuts. Now it is populated by people who question scientists and doctors over basic facts. Being on the right used to mean being a patriot who believed in a shining city on hill that served as a moral beacon to the world, now it is a party of fear-mongers who have cycle through scapegoats and strawmen in a never-ending fear-storm. I agree with the first half of this quote. The critiques you list at the end I just see as present on both sides, it's just the media has a vested interest in downplaying (or ignoring) when the leftists do it. Hopwin wrote: I am a registered Republican and voted for Trump in 2016 because I believed in his outsider status and because Hillary was the most corrupt politician I had ever seen to that point in my life. Quoting you out of order, I know, but felt it flowed better this way. In any case, I find it interesting that I'm the opposite of you then and now. I'm also a registered R-team. I voted in the primary for Cruz. I refused to vote for a presidential candidate in the general (I voted for other positions though) because I found Trump completely immoral and never believed him to have a conservative bone in his body. This year, I feel compelled to vote Trump because of how radial the Left has become. I'm fearful of what will happen in a Harris presidency, particularly if there is no check on the executive with an opposing Senate. |
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| Author: | DFK! [ Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Re: |
Screeling wrote: I'm fearful of what will happen in a Harris presidency, particularly if there is no check on the executive with an opposing Senate. This is the most disturbing of all potential outcomes in November- a unified government. Regardless of party, this country never fares well under unified government.. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:24 am ] |
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Harris is as self-serving as any usual congressperson, so it's possible she's just another corporate president serving wall-street. I suspect she's willing to say woke things for as long as it brings her status and power. Whether or not that translates into a new gulag system is hard to say. |
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| Author: | Midgen [ Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:01 pm ] |
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Kamala Harris is the most Left/Liberal member of the US Senate - this is an indisputable fact. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/member ... ris/412678 |
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| Author: | Diamondeye [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:12 am ] |
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Midgen wrote: Kamala Harris is the most Left/Liberal member of the US Senate - this is an indisputable fact. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/member ... ris/412678 Unless I'm reading that chart wrong, it looks like Gillibrand and Sanders are farther left than her, but that's a low bar to clear. |
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| Author: | Wwen [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:42 pm ] |
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Lefter than Sanders? I dunno, Officer Harris seems more like the classic sociopath do-whatever-gains-prestige/power politician. YMMV. She can say whatever, but she's phonier than a pair of tits on Kaitlin Jenner. That fake laugh she has (for no reason, nothing funny was said) creeps me out. |
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