"This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It's literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we're fighting. We're emboldening an enemy."

This guy is making my head hurt.

Trijicon is a private company, they can put whatever they want on their products. I like the idea of shooting people with "Jesus Rifles" though. It makes me lol.

This is verging on tinfoil hat territory.

Maybe we should shape hand grenades like pocket NTs, too.

*sigh* So now Scriptural references are taboo? What will you advocate next, that soldiers not be allowed to carry Bibles with them? Seriously, it's a reference, such as you can see most any Sunday while watching football. Soldiers are under no obligation to look in a Bible to see what the reference says.

Not even worth calling a tempest in a teapot. If you have no concerns greater than this, be thankful to God that you don't have a stroke from getting your blood pressure up so high over such trivialities.

It's already prohibited by regulation to use command or other authority to promote specific religious practices.

So then obviously you'd be fine with having scopes that say "Praise Allah" on them as well?

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.

Yet if the observations of that second article are true, those regulations are either ignored or ineffectual.

The second article is from 2007. IIRC, from back then I read an article or two comparing the chaplain services of the US Navy and the US Air Force, with the Navy being far more tolerant of other religious views in the ranks. The Air Force, and especially the Air Force Academy, has changed some of those policies since then, as I recall a follow-up article mentioning.

As to the Bible references on the scopes: considering the fact that mere rumors of desecration of a Koran leads to whackjobs saying that it's another Western Crusade against Islam, it is a bit of a PR blunder to have Christian biblical references on military equipment. But I'll bet they inscribe this stuff on all their products. this can be rectified with one phone call from a military procurement officer saying: "uh, yeah, please don't include those inscriptions in any future product you make for us. Thanks!"

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Lydiaa wins.

The second article is from 2007. IIRC, from back then I read an article or two comparing the chaplain services of the US Navy and the US Air Force, with the Navy being far more tolerant of other religious views in the ranks. The Air Force, and especially the Air Force Academy, has changed some of those policies since then, as I recall a follow-up article mentioning.

As to the Bible references on the scopes: considering the fact that mere rumors of desecration of a Koran leads to whackjobs saying that it's another Western Crusade against Islam, it is a bit of a PR blunder to have Christian biblical references on military equipment. But I'll bet they inscribe this stuff on all their products. this can be rectified with one phone call from a military procurement officer saying: "uh, yeah, please don't include those inscriptions in any future product you make for us. Thanks!"